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Tips Cannabis simple syrup

Tincandtoke

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Cool. Do you use aspartame ?


No
Not a fan of sugar substitutes
I infused stevia to see if it could be done but did not use it outside that one infusion

Its hard to sell folks on edibles that are not just decarbed herb ground up and sprinkled on food
Just posted on another site trying to help someone with infused caramels
Waste of time
 

Tincandtoke

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Some musings on my cannabis simple syrup adventure
There s a tidal wave of info
Things change in months
With some decent equipment and knowledge you can grow and manufacture your own high quality products
Filtering needs to be taken more seriously
Vacuum ovens need to come down in price
People need to be nicer
 

Tincandtoke

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The fun continues
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They attempted to package it thoroughly but failed
Probably lost a gram or two
The cap unscrewed
This should last several years as the carbon can be cleaned and used again
Hoping it only takes a gram or two to clean up the tincture reductions in the test tube
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I will be getting the homogenizer with sonication in a couple of months if my research shows it can be used in syrups and oils

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This is what I am doing now
Using the carbonX to figure out how much to use for a scrub
The celite is a must to really clean up the tincture
Made a make shift barrier for the carbon that kind of worked
About half the carbon got through the folds but I was able to recover most of it
Lost about .25-.5 grams
Not bad for learning curve
Also the celite puck was a quickie so it may not have been optimal
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Very happy with the results
27 grams cleaned up nice
I will split a 14 gram batch and see how much I can scrub out
This carbon is NOT suppose to grab cannabinoids
 
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Tincandtoke

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According to the folks on future4200 there is a lot of hidden tek in here
Hope color remediation is in there

There are a lot of parallels to wine making and cannabis extraction and color remediation
 

Tincandtoke

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So here is a night in the freezer after a filter of carbonX and celite
A lot of wax
Unsure if you can see it in the pic
This could have been the celite for various reasons or I may need to dewax which will add a layer to the filtering
I wi!l run it through a PES membrane filter to see if this solves the problem
Still refreshing (actually relearning) organic chemistry
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Huge pain in the rear trying to downsize the methods used at the industrial level
 

Tincandtoke

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This is a membrane filter
When I was doing some research I came across these and tried them to see if I could eliminate the activated charcoal and the carcinogenic byproducts
They did not filter out much of the coloring but they did a good job of cleaning up the tincture of husks and debris from the plant material
Filtered the tincture straight from the freezer
Never tested if the membrane filter filtered lipids and waxes etc.
Back in the freezer
I do think the wax is from my poorly constructed ce!ite puck


Forgot to include this
I will go over to nano filtration fully in about 6 months
Its not for everybody and you can do a decent job with a coffee filter if you don't mind the taste
 
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Tincandtoke

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Pear syrup
I will not say that you cannot taste any cannabis flavor but I cannot detect it at all
Pear is a very weak flavoring and it has trouble overpowering the cannabis taste
I taste pear, could be ramped up by using 5 pears instead of 3

Pear and vanilla are going to be my flavor bases and I will extract and concentrate the other flavorings

Just a quick note
You can flavor the syrup with beef or chicken stock that is reduced to a tablespoon
It can be added to steak sauce and barbecue sauce
I infuse barbecue sauce and use it on grilled pineapple

The above syrup has 22 grams in 300ml of syrup
The math will make my head explode but it is roughly 1500-1700 milligrams

About 75mg A tablespoon so I will use a half tablespoon and get about forty doses
 

Tincandtoke

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About to process tincture for gummies
Going to try to work the syrup into the above recipes
In the layered gummy video there is a coconut pineapple gummy that uses coconut milk which will allow the use of infused oil with the sugar carrier
These gummies will all be full filtered and some of the recipes may not be replicated without a thorough filtering

I'll be working with a whipper on video soon and all those recipes involve heavy filtering
May have to save them for a YouTube channel as the interest may be minimal

Got some flack for my beef and chicken flavored syrup
It works
You are adding it to sauces that already have sugar and are going over beef and chicken already
A1 and Smithfields barbecue for example, use it as a garnish or topping after cooking
 

Tincandtoke

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Yup. Read the bread label -- aspartam is there. I dropped bread because of that. Always test what you take.

Really need to start reading labels
Purged most processed food from my diet but a few convenience items like boxed stuffing are still there
Making bread is not hard but....
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Cherry flavoring in the making
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About a cup of cherries reduced
May do a small batch syrup of 100ml or less, maybe 60ml
I refer to this as a small batch super concentrate that is dosed in fractions of a TEAspoon
I will get in the habit of weighing them in grams when I start writing recipes
 

Tincandtoke

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Thank you Janie and Scott




See a what a bunch of people can get done with enough nagging

Syrup will go in seamlessly, I think
Oil may be a little more of a challenge
Their oat milk recipe is awesome too
 

Tincandtoke

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After getting a lot of anecdotal information I have begun adjusting the recipe for the syrup

Most of the requests come in the 35-50mg range in small servings
The syrup above is between that range in guesstimate only
After a lot of reading and collecting data on several sites I have come to the conclusion that all these numbers that are printed on lqbels are suspect at best
But, it is all we have to go on

So far most people want the infused products in high mg low volume carrier
Considering it is rich simple syrup and coconut oil this is a good idea

The above oil in the small mason jar comes in at the same mg per serving as a TEAspoon of syrup
The oil is a 1 gram serving
Weighing the oil when it is solid is easier for me
1 gram melts pretty fast

So the first set change is that I use the whole batch of simple syrup which is over 2 cups
The simple syrup recipe content is 2 cups of sugar to 1 cup of water
To this ratio you are going to add 5 grams of 210S



This will give you a much more fluid syrup that can withstand adding things like dry cocoa to make chocolate syrup

Another issue is mistakes
Folks are burning their brownies and cookies and other oven baked edibles
I'm going to focus more on infusing things like sauces, frosting, ganache along with full infusion recipes like pie filling

YouTube is getting very hostile toward cannabis content so I may have to use a different platform to help me produce the videos
 

Tincandtoke

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So I have not been idle despite the rumors
The syrup is in circulation with a couple of folks and good results so far

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Because the syrup is 40mg A teaspoon you can just add it along with the monin and it will blend seamlessly
Drinks, hot and cold, are easy to dose
Chocolate milk to chocolate martini
No separation and thorough distribution and suspension

The vanilla creme in coffee is off the charts and I hate most flavored coffees
I think the fall collection flavors will be fun
 

Tincandtoke

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Vanilla creme soda like back in the day
40mg and no cannabis taste
I was contemplating introducing terpenes back into the syrup but the creme soda tasted too good
 

Tincandtoke

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So far the preference is for the syrup to act as a dosing mechanism rather than a base
Basically you can run around with a small container of the syrup and dose your edibles through the day
Add it to your drink, condiment or any other part of your meal that can be sweetened

This is how I will present the syrup in n its main form with larger infused batches of syrup for sorbet, pie filling and other high volume foods
Who wants to eat a teaspoon of ice cream
3 scoops and dial 911

CBD flower is becoming more popular
I have a feeling that the higher thc cultivars of cbd flower are going to work better than the cbd flower that is less than 1% thc
After having experimented with well over a 100 different cultivars the last year I have noticed the different effects each one brings
Never gave the entourage effect much thought because I know my processing eliminates it
My thoughts have changed but the taste is more important at this point
Thought about putting terpenes back in but the sodas and seltzer taste too good to F with the flavor profile


Here is the kicker with all this
The flower had been sitting in a mason jar for well over 6 months in the freezer decarbed
It leeches a lot of crap but not nearly as much as I had anticipated
The potency is there and and an extra gram of carbonX https://extraktlab.com/carbonx/ cleaned everything up nicely
Also, the tinctures I've had in there for several months have retained potency
I got rejected for lab access by the corporate useless capitalist assholes MCR LABS (Rot in filth you money grubbing sacks of shit)

I say the above because I got backed up with flower after a medical incident and needed to process 6+ month old flower (stored properly)
Went from backed up flower to backed up frozen decarbed flower to single stage filtered tincture to full filtered tincture
All over the course of about a year
The point is that if you store everything in an appropriate manner it will sill retain a good portion of its potency in various states of processing
Ended up being an unintended experiment
 

Tincandtoke

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Here are some pics of the CarbonX being separated and recovered for reuse
Looking into more efficient ways to do this as I gain experience
I think the carbon can be filtered to remove the celite, more research
Since carbonX is a little expensive it will be nice to get a few runs out of each gram
Think I can get it to the point where it may only cost $1-$2 per filtering, it's about $6-$10 if I throw it out after 1 use

The tincture stores well in the freezer so this may be a once a year process
 

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