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Meds Cannabis vs Prescription Drugs

Big Pharma Wants a Monopoly On One of Weed's Key Medicinal Compounds

Corporate lobbyists in more than 20 states are currently pushing to make sure the pharmaceutical industry has the only legal supply of CBD.
Melissa Mentele,a 40-year old mother of three, worked in healthcare for 20 years until she suffered a catastrophic injury while helping an Alzheimer's patient out of bed, later developing a rare, "devastating" chronic pain condition called RSD/CRPS. After finding that medical cannabis worked wonders for her pain relief without the "dangerous and debilitating" side effects of prescription pills, she helped found New Approach South Dakota, a donor-funded, volunteer-staffed nonprofit that advocates locally for medical cannabis.

A regular attendee at any statewide meeting on the subject, Mentele noticed something seriously awry this legislative session when she arrived at the statehouse for a hearing on a bill that would allow patients with a doctor's recommendation to legally access cannabidiol (CBD), a non-psychoactive medicinal compound found in cannabis.


"Every attempt to pass a medical cannabis law in South Dakota has previously been met with a very heavy law enforcement presence," Mentele tells me.

"Even an extremely limited CBD bill last year, where we had parents of severely ill children in there crying and begging for access, brought out about 40 police officers and our Attorney General's office—all in opposition. So I knew something was up this year when we arrived for the committee meeting and the parking lot wasn't full of cop cars from every county in our state."

Initially, Mentele hoped the powers-that-be had finally educated themselves on the subject and come to their senses. But that wasn't it, exactly.

Read more: Big Pharma's Dirtiest Dealers

Instead, she discovered that three paid lobbyists for GW Pharmaceuticals and its American subsidiary Greenwich BioSciences had came prepared to push for a key amendment.

The original South Dakota Bill SB 95 would have exempted CBD from the state's definition of cannabis, moving it from a Schedule I to a Schedule IV drug, thus clearing the way for CBD products to be legally sold. The GW-backed amendment clarified that these changes would apply only to products with FDA approval.

Not surprisingly, GW Pharmaceuticals has just such a drug in the pipeline. Epidiolex, a "proprietary oral solution of pure plant-derived cannabidiol," has already been given to epileptic children in the US as part of a federal investigative study documented recently in the New England Journal of Medicine. And the company plans to submit Epidiolex "mid-2017" for full FDA approval.
Since no other pharmaceutical company has a CBD drug anywhere close to market, and the wide range of CBD products already available in medical marijuana states lack FDA approval, if the bill had passed with that amendment intact, patients in South Dakota would have been subjected to a virtual CBD monopoly.

"GW wants to be the only CBD product allowed in South Dakota," Mentele says. "That makes me very angry."

More ominously, The Great CBD Battle of South Dakota appears to be but the opening salvo in a nationwide war between GW Pharmaceuticals and traditional medical cannabis providers.

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The landmark study published by The New England Journal of Medicine last month showed for the first time that in a clinical trial CBD extracted directly from cannabis plants sharply reduced seizures among children with a rare form of epilepsy.

But parents with children suffering from Dravet's Syndrome and many other serious illnesses have been pushing for access to the "miracle drug" since 2013, when Dr. Sanjay Gupta's Weed documentary debuted on CNN. The much-hyped, hour-long special told the story of Charlotte Figi, a 6-year-old girl who suffered 300 grand mal seizures every week, until non-psychoactive CBD-rich cannabis oil proved 99 percent effective in stopping them.

Immediately after Weed aired, demand for CBD spiked, with hundreds of families literally uprooting their lives and moving to Colorado to legally access the herbal treatment. But that seeming "overnight" sensation was actually many decades in the making.


In the mid-1960s, a team of Israeli scientists first isolated tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), CBD, and other cannabinoids. As the part of the plant that gets you high, THC naturally garnered the bulk of attention, while CBD languished in relative obscurity, including among US government-backed researchers tasked with demonstrating marijuana's harms (never benefits!), and pot aficionados looking to get lit.

It took Dr. Geoffrey Guy, a British pharmaceutical researcher and serial entrepreneur, to fully recognize the compound's unique potential. Not only did CBD exhibit promising therapeutic benefits in early lab tests, but its lack of a high offered a foot in the door with skeptical lawmakers.

CBD languished in relative obscurity, including among US government-backed researchers

By 1998, as founder and chairman of GW Pharmaceuticals, Guy was growing thousands of cannabis plants—with full approval from the British government—in a series of heavily secured glass houses at an undisclosed location in Southern England.

"He got the go-ahead by convincing the British Home Office that CBD could negate the psychoactivity of THC, and that cannabinoids could be ingested by means other than smoking," Fred Gardner, publisher of O'Shaughnessy's , a long-running journal covering the latest advances in cannabis medicine, tells me.

At the time of GW's founding almost all marijuana available on the black market offered only minuscule amounts of CBD, largely because the compound effectively diminishes the prized psychoactive effects of THC, which led underground growers to unwittingly breed it out of the cannabis gene pool.


That is, at least until 2010, when Gardner helped form Project CBD, and started working with medical cannabis cultivators, testing laboratories and dispensaries to identify and disseminate remaining heirloom varieties with appreciable amounts of CBD.

As CBD supply subsequently grew, so too did remarkable anecdotal reports of its medical efficacy for a wide range of ailments. Charlotte Figi's parents first learned of highly-concentrated CBD oil not from the medical establishment, but by watching Weed Wars, a Discovery Channel series about a cannabis dispensary that was an early adopter of the treatment for pediatric patients.

GW Pharmaceuticals, meanwhile, has spent many years and untold millions of dollars developing Sativex, a fully plant-derived sublingual spray with a 1:1 ratio of THC and CBD that's currently available in sixteen countries, but still hasn't won FDA approval as a prescription drug in the United States. So while The Hemp Business Journal estimates that the US market for CBD is currently a $200 million annual industry, GW has yet to make a sale.

Dr. Guy, however, appears to be playing the long game.

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Melissa Mentele first went public with her objections in an exposé published by Leafly, a cannabis media company, which described how South Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley—"one of the most powerful figures in state politics"—sat silently behind the GW lobbyists during that fateful hearing, presumably in a show of support for the company and the amendment.

Jackley had previously strongly opposed any move toward cannabis legalization, in any form, including a year ago during debate on a CBD bill that Mentele describes as "far more restrictive."

Neither GW Pharmaceuticals nor Marty Jackley responded to my requests for comment. But after the Leafly story posted, GW did issue a written response that read in part:

None of GW's work involves opposing "medical marijuana" or "CBD access." GW's sole focus is on creating a pathway for our medicine, once approved by FDA…Greenwich Biosciences/GW is not creating a monopoly. Rather, we are blazing a trail for any other CBD prescription medications that may follow since these regulations would not be specific to GW.

The statement also points out that GW "is currently providing Epidiolex without cost to over 1,200 patients through compassionate use programs." Fred Gardner of O'Shaunnesey's adds that "GW providing plant extracts to scientists" is what broke the US federal government's "monopoly on cannabinoid research." He speculates that the compound's incredible therapeutic potential may well have remained wholly obscure to this day if not for the company's efforts.

But carefully parsed, the GW statement only denies seeking a monopoly against other "prescription medications" (i.e. FDA-approved drugs like Epidiolex). Meaning under the amendment, South Dakota would still ban myriad CBD products already available in many other states. Even though they cost far lessthan Epidiolex, and are potentially more effective for patients, since in addition to CBD those "full spectrum" cannabis extracts also contain small amounts of THC and other medicinal components of the plant.


"While science has not yet shown the exact role or mechanism for all these various compounds," Dr. Gupta has written, "evidence is mounting that these compounds work better together than in isolation.'"

So really the best argument you can make for Epidiolex is that it's produced to pharmaceutical standards and, if FDA approved, would be federally regulated like any other prescription drug. No small thing if you're planning to give it to a toddler with a severe seizure disorder. But something bigger certainly seems to be at play.

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Ultimately, after pressure from local medical cannabis advocates, the GW-backed amendment was scaled back and Senate Bill 95 was passed and signed into law by South Dakota Governor Dennis Daugaard. In a "nobody wins" outcome, according to Mentele, patients in the state will still have to wait for FDA approval of Epidiolex to gain legal access to CBD, but at least the subsequent move of CBD from Schedule I to Schedule IV will not be limited to "FDA-approved drugs"—thus preventing a monopoly.

In the meantime, however, families with desperately ill children are stuck in limbo while waiting for Epidiolex's approval, which could take a year or longer. Even more ominously, as Leafly reported, GW has "contracted with lobbyists in at least 22 states for the 2017 legislative season."


According to Justin Strekal, Political Director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, their efforts may not only deny patients immediate access to CBD, they also threaten to significantly delay the implementation of any kind of cannabis reform.

"As GW and their lobbyists go door-to-door selling lawmakers on the wonders of their proprietary product," Strekal tells me, "it gives those legislators the political out to say 'we did something,' when they really didn't."

Case in point, in Georgia, back in 2014, a CBD access bill backed by many parents of severely ill children "got mired in politics," according to WBS-TV Atlanta, and died in the final hours of that year's legislative session. Soon after, Governor Nathan Deal "announced a plan to pave the way for clinical trials" on CBD in the state to be sponsored by GW Pharmaceuticals.

Local activists believe significant contributions from Big Pharma to Governor Deal and the two lawmakers who chair the Health and Human Services Committee influenced them to kill a bill "that would have granted immunity to parents of kids with severe seizure disorders who brought non-FDA-approved cannabis oil back from states where it's legal."

Three years later, the situation remains so dire that highly conservative Georgia state representative Allen Peake has taken to running an underground CBD distribution ring out of his office. The cannabis products arrive illegally from Colorado (Peake claims no knowledge of how they arrive) and then are distributed to hundreds of pediatric parents across the state.


For Melissa Mentele, meanwhile, the first CBD battle in South Dakota may be a hard-fought draw, but the war is just starting. And she won't be taken by surprise again. "Cannabis patients and caregivers have organized and fought for decades for the government to look at cannabis as a treatment option. Nobody did until hundreds of patients bravely shared their stories," she said.

"So we as a community have done the work for them, and now Big Pharma wants to swoop in and use an unfair monopoly and an inferior product to profit off the backs of catastrophically ill and dying people. It is disgusting."

I can't say it any better than the last line above.....
Yep, the pigs are lining up for their spot at the feed trough.
 
How Many Prescriptions Are Replaced by Cannabis? Canada Study Explores an Answer

In the US, we’ve seen a marked drop in opioid overdoses in legal states, prodding the question of whether patients are replacing their prescription medicines with cannabis. Recent survey data collected from patients enrolled in Canada’s MMPR program indicates this may be more than just a correlation.

Led by researchers Philippe Lucas and Zach Walsh, this investigation surveyed 271 patients purchasing medical cannabis from Canadian LP Tilray (which, like Leafly, is owned by Privateer Holdings). Seeking to understand who is using medical marijuana and why, they discovered some staggering statistics pertaining to substitution–63% of respondents reported using cannabis in place of prescription medications.

Breaking down the results by drug classes, Lucas and Walsh found that:

  • 30% of respondents replaced opioids with cannabis
  • 16% replaced benzodiazepines
  • 12% replaced antidepressants


The reason? “Less adverse side effects,” said 39% of patients. Others responded that cannabis was safer (27%) and more effective in treating symptoms (16%).

“In light of the growing rate of morbidity and mortality associated with these prescription medications, cannabis could play a significant role in reducing the health burden of problematic prescription drug use,” the authors wrote.

Putting to rest concerns of cannabis dependence, the survey also established a strong tendency for recreational use to precede medicinal use, not the other way around as we see with many pharmaceutical medications. A transition from medical to recreational use was only reported by less than 3% of respondents, indicating a low risk potential.

The substitution effect reaches beyond just the medicine cabinet; cannabis also helped patients curb other types of substance use:

  • 25% of respondents replaced alcohol with cannabis
  • 12% of respondents replaced cigarettes/tobacco with cannabis
  • 3% of respondents replaced illicit drugs with cannabis
Though widely supported by anecdotal evidence, this study is one of hopefully many to substantiate what patients have been experiencing for themselves when it comes to replacing other drugs and habits with cannabis. How might these statistics look in the US, where prescription medication use and abuse runs rampant? That’s a question for future research.
 
I've changed the name of this thread to just 'Big Pharma' because I think we'll have more to talk about with them than CBD.... :hmm:

Big Pharma Is Developing Cannabis Painkillers

Ever since reports began to surface about how a growing number of patients in medical marijuana states are now using the herb as an alternative to prescription painkillers, the pharmaceutical industry has been trying to find an angle in order to win back profits.

In fact, it was recently revealed that some of America’s drug makers are currently on a mission to manufacture cannabis-based pain relievers in hopes of cashing in on the call for opioid substitutes.

According to a report from Reuters, pharmaceutical companies such as Axim Biotechnologies Inc, Nemus Bioscience Inc and Intec Pharma Ltd are in the midst of developing cannabis painkillers that could one day be sold in pharmacies across the nation.

“The companies are targeting the more than 100 million Americans who suffer from chronic pain and are dependent on opioid painkillers, such as Vicodin, or addicted to street opiates including heroin,” the report reads.

Developing cannabis painkillers is not the problem —the hard part is winning over the FDA.

Because marijuana is a Schedule I dangerous drug under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), a classification that ranks the herb as having “no medicinal value,” obtaining FDA approval comes with a multitude of challenges.

Not only are the political hoops involved with cannabis research next to impossible to overcome, but it also takes a huge financial commitment, not to mention years of clinical trials, to bring new drugs to market.

But just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

In fact, sadly, the pharmaceutical approach to medical marijuana has a better chance of going national than the concept that is currently happening on a state-by-state basis all across the nation.

That’s because the cannabis plant doesn’t need to be rescheduled under the CSA in order for Big Pharma to capitalize on legal weed.

As we have seen in similar situations, like with Insys Therapeutics and its pharmaceutical cannabinoid branded Syndros, all the U.S. DEA has to do is classify a cannabis painkiller as a Schedule II or III substance, and it can exist as part of the mainstream drug market.

But Big Phama’s plan to produce cannabis painkillers is not about to render opioid medications obsolete. Despite the problems and health risks commonly associated with the use of opioids, many patients argue that these drugs are essential in the treatment of severe pain.

“Trauma and battlefield injuries could not be managed without the analgesic effects of opioids,” Roger Chriss, a Washington-based technical consultant, who suffers from a connective tissue disorder known as Ehlers Danlos syndrome, wrote in a recent article for Pain News Network. “The same is true for tens of thousands of cancer surgeries, organ transplants and hip replacements. And for the neuropathic pain caused by chemotherapy or the pain of a sickle-cell crisis. The list goes on and on. Opioids are an invaluable medical resource.”

Nevertheless, it appears the pharmaceutical companies are getting serious about their involvement in cannabis medicine. But for now, there are no FDA-approved cannabis painkillers available.
 
Big Pharma Losing Grip as Study Shows Nearly 100% Cannabis Users Give Up Rx Pain Meds

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A landmark study helps explain why Big Pharma is so afraid of the medical benefits of cannabis. The pharmaceutical and alcohol industries, both powerful influences in Washington, have long lobbied against cannabis legalization in order to protect their profits.

The recent study is lending credibility to the idea that medical cannabis can be used as a natural alternative to prescription pain medications, with nearly 100 percent of respondents saying they believe cannabis is helping them decrease their use of prescription opioids to treat the pain.

The study, which was conducted by HelloMD, one of the largest medical cannabis communities in the nation, and University of California Berkley, surveyed nearly 3,000 patients who use both opioid and non-opioid based pain medication.

The results of the study concluded that 97 percent of respondents “strongly agreed/agreed” that they could decrease use of their opioid medications when using cannabis. While 92 percent of respondents said that they “strongly agreed/agreed” that they prefer cannabis to treat their medical condition.

The study also found that 81 percent of respondents said they “strongly agreed/ agreed” that using cannabis alone was more effective than taking cannabis with opioids.



Use of cannabis as a substitute/in conjunction with opioid-based pain medication (PRNewsfoto/HelloMD)
While cannabis is only legalized for medicinal use in 26 states and the District of Columbia, 93 percentof respondents said they “strongly agreed/agreed” that they would use cannabis as a substitute for their current prescription medication if it was available.

Dr. Perry Solomon, Chief Medical Officer of HelloMD, referenced a recent publication from the National Academy of Sciences, Engineering & Medicine on “The Health Effect of Cannabis and Cannabinoids,” and noted that this study serves as a way to support the theory that cannabis is the opposite of a gateway drug.


“The latest publication from the National Academy of Sciences clearly refuted the ‘gateway drug’ theory that using marijuana can lead to opioid addiction, instead finding evidence of cannabis having multiple curative benefits,” Dr. Solomon said. “Our study further substantiates this. Hopefully this will awaken the public, medical professionals and legislatures to the fact that cannabis is a safe, non-addictive product, available to help fight the opioid epidemic.”


Amanda Reiman, a professor at UC Berkley who helped lead the study, said the treatment of pain has become a politicized business in the United States that has resulted in “the rapidly rising rate of opioid related overdoses and dependence.

“Cannabis has been used throughout the world for thousands of years to treat pain and other physical and mental health conditions,” Reiman said. “Patients have been telling us for decades that this practice is producing better outcomes than the use of opioid based medications. It’s past time for the medical profession to get over their reefer madness and start working with the medical cannabis movement and industry to slow down the destruction being caused by the over prescribing and overuse of opioids.”

As The Free Thought Project has reported, despite the fact that cannabis has been proven to help with a number of things from killing cancer cells to treating rare and fatal conditions, it is still classified among the deadliest drugs that are supposed to have no medicinal value in the United States.


While studies such as the latest one from HelloMD and UC Berkley serve as a reminder that for many patients, cannabis is the ideal alternative to opioid medications, there is still a clear reason why cannabis has yet to be legalized in the U.S. If medical cannabis was legalized in all 50 states, it would take at least $4.5 billion away from the stranglehold that has been established by big pharma.
 
Medical Cannabis and Reduced Prescription Use

Breakthrough Study Indicates Strong Association Between Medical Cannabis and Reduced Prescription Use.

NEWS PROVIDED BY

Industrial Rehabilitation Clinics of Albuquerque
Aug 18, 2017, 19:00 ET

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Aug. 18, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- In a soon-to-be published article in the *Journal of the American Medical Directors Association, *University of New Mexico researchers, in
collaboration with Industrial Rehabilitation Clinics of Albuquerque, followed patients who enrolled voluntarily in the New Mexico state medical cannabis program and found that they significantly reduced their utilization of scheduled prescription medications in the months following enrollment. All prescriptions for scheduled medications must be reported to the New Mexico Prescription Monitoring Program with opiates and benzodiazepines being the two most common. Based on these prescription records, patients enrolled in the medical cannabis program reduced the monthly average number of prescriptions, types of prescriptions (drug classes), number of prescribers, and number of related pharmacy visits. 71% of medical cannabis program enrollees either ceased or reduced their use of scheduled prescriptions within 6 months of enrolling.

While other studies on medical cannabis have looked at similar state-level outcomes, this study is the first to take the approach of examining individual patients throughout their enrollment in the medical cannabis program and comparing those patients to a comparison group of similar patients who did not enroll in the medical cannabis program.

The findings of this study indicate that once a patient enrolls in the medical cannabis program there is an increased likelihood that the patient will decrease their usage of scheduled medications. These medications include many drugs of abuse such as opiates, benzodiazepines, and sleeping medications. Opiates in particular are in the public discourse because of the danger of overdose, addiction and death.

Stith, S. S., et al "Effects of Legal Access to Cannabis on Scheduled II-V Drug Prescriptions." (in press). Journal of the American Medical Director's Association.

 
I want to be clear that in my original post, I did not mean to imply that anyone should abandon all pharmaceuticals. Many are life saving and it would be fool hardy to think that cannabis would be a replacement. I also do not want anyone to think I am implying that cannabis can 'cure' any particular disease.

That said, it has shown to be effective for many of the ailments pharmaceuticals are often prescribed for. And... there has been significant study done that we can start eyeing cannabis as an alternative to some of the drugs prescribed. :smile:


That was my feeling as well. And while I still occasionally need to take an opiate, those occasions are few and far between. I don't like how I feel on them. And they are a slippery slope to addiction. Having slid down that slope several times now, I have no desire to do so again. I find cannabis usually gives me enough relief (or distraction.... or both) to cope.
Let's just keep it real!

I love CANNABIS to a fault!
Having said that; I believe pharma is good in some cases?

I was able to dump 6 different med's with CANNABIS.
I have 2 left that I reduced but not having been able to quit them completely.

Use your brain. @Baron23 I love your comment on the subject!

Whatever work's?
 
Let's just keep it real!

I love CANNABIS to a fault!
Having said that; I believe pharma is good in some cases?

I was able to dump 6 different med's with CANNABIS.
I have 2 left that I reduced but not having been able to quit them completely.

Use your brain. @Baron23 I love your comment on the subject!

Whatever work's?
That's the way I see it brother! A lot of pharma is like dropping a piano off a building to drive a nail into a piece of wood. I'm glad to have replaced those with cannabis for my medical purposes.

However, there are plenty of pharma meds that rightfully are regarded as life-prolonging/life-saving and we should all be mindful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater :peace:
 
That's the way I see it brother! A lot of pharma is like dropping a piano off a building to drive a nail into a piece of wood. I'm glad to have replaced those with cannabis for my medical purposes.

However, there are plenty of pharma meds that rightfully are regarded as life-prolonging/life-saving and we should all be mindful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater :peace:

I agree. I take a drug called Synthroid, and cannabis cannot replace it. If I don’t take it, I get deathly ill, and would eventually die. So, yes, absolutely there are some RX meds that are necessary.

I am glad I was able to replace a lot of my RX meds with cannabis, though. :)
 
I agree. I take a drug called Synthroid, and cannabis cannot replace it. If I don’t take it, I get deathly ill, and would eventually die. So, yes, absolutely there are some RX meds that are necessary.
Thank goodness for that medication! That sounds like a tough position to be in my friend, I hope that you have steady access to that kind of medicine whenever you need it :peace:
 
Thank goodness for that medication! That sounds like a tough position to be in my friend, I hope that you have steady access to that kind of medicine whenever you need it :peace:

It is scary having to depend on an RX med. The pharmacy accidentally filled my Synthroid for generic, and I got deathly ill. Almost had to go to the ER. For me, taking the generic is like taking nothing at all. It’s also very expensive, but so far, there haven’t been any shortages.
 
The pharmacy accidentally filled my Synthroid for generic, and I got deathly ill. Almost had to go to the ER. For me, taking the generic is like taking nothing at all
I've always felt that generics aren't as strong or effective..... and why the powers that be insist that they are is beyond me. In a case like this it could have had severe consequences. :disgust:
 
Peace all!

Big Pharma lost my trust in the late 80s when they brought me news...

"Great news OldOyler! There's a new wonder drug out called oxycontin, just two pills a day and more steady relief. Now you won't have to take all those percocets! All that Tylenol is bad for you!"

They lie, lie, and occasionally SUPER lie.

We're profit potential to 98% of the companies that have the DEA Drug Schedule in their pocket.

That bothers me very much.

But I'm sure they have something for that....

:chill:

Peace.
 
I've always felt that generics aren't as strong or effective..... and why the powers that be insist that they are is beyond me. In a case like this it could have had severe consequences. :disgust:

Generics are absolutely not the same. They have different fillers, and I’m convinced they don’t always have as much medicine in them as the brand name.

Peace all!

Big Pharma lost my trust in the late 80s when they brought me news...

"Great news OldOyler! There's a new wonder drug out called oxycontin, just two pills a day and more steady relief. Now you won't have to take all those percocets! All that Tylenol is bad for you!"

They lie, lie, and occasionally SUPER lie.

We're profit potential to 98% of the companies that have the DEA Drug Schedule in their pocket.

That bothers me very much.

But I'm sure they have something for that....

:chill:

Peace.

I got off the opioids and now use Kratom instead. It’s not as effective, and I do have more pain, but at least I’m not taking the poison pills anymore.
 
It is scary having to depend on an RX med. The pharmacy accidentally filled my Synthroid for generic, and I got deathly ill. Almost had to go to the ER. For me, taking the generic is like taking nothing at all. It’s also very expensive, but so far, there haven’t been any shortages.
@Vicki I leaned a lot this year and I'm grateful for that!
Option's are like ASSHOLE'S we all have one.
I hope that I haven't mislead anyone?

PHARMA is decent for some people.

I quit what I could and kept the one's that seemed to help. (I was able to reduce what I had left.)

We need to be careful not to be mislead in this regard.
My goal for 2018 is to be honest and truthful in what I do or say!

Good luck to all of you and may we help each of us to survive on this: "PALE BLUE DOT" (CARL SAGAN)

HAPPY LIFE!
 
@Vicki I leaned a lot this year and I'm grateful for that!
Option's are like ASSHOLE'S we all have one.
I hope that I haven't mislead anyone?

PHARMA is decent for some people.

I quit what I could and kept the one's that seemed to help. (I was able to reduce what I had left.)

We need to be careful not to be mislead in this regard.
My goal for 2018 is to be honest and truthful in what I do or say!

Good luck to all of you and may we help each of us to survive on this: "PALE BLUE DOT" (CARL SAGAN)

HAPPY LIFE!

I agree. RX drugs do have their place, but a lot can be replaced with herbs, and I am truly grateful for that. :)
 
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I agree with what others have said about RX meds having their place and cannabis not being a cure-all.
Here are some facts acknowledged by our govt. on the NIH website; Cannabis is known to and has been proven to, kill cancer cells, lower inflammation, and nausea. Cannabis has also been shown to help with anxiety and loss of appetite.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq

The above facts are proven. What has not been established is my belief that big pharma is what's preventing our govt. from pursuing more studies and clinical trials. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, in fact, I despise those crackpots, but there is some compelling evidence against big pharma to prove my belief.
 
While this article isn't cannabis related, it speaks to how opiates (oxycontin in particular) have been marketed to doctors as a 'safe' and viable medication for pain. Seems to me that the 'gateway' was the overprescribing and had nothing at all to do with cannabis.... people need to wake up and face reality.

The Big Pharma Family that Brought Us the Opioid Crisis

If the devil wears Prada, what do America’s most destructive drug pushers wear? They wear smiles. The drug pushers we have in mind here have caused hundreds of thousands of deaths, enough fatalities to decrease overall U.S. life expectancy at birth for the last two years running. Yet no police SWAT teams have pounded down any doors hunting these drug pushers down.

These particular drug pushers have devastated millions of families across the United States. Yet some of America’s most honorable institutions, outfits ranging from Yale University to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, have spent decades lauding their philanthropic generosity and benevolence.

We’re obviously not talking El Chapo or any of his drug-running buddies here. We’re talking about the mega-billionaire family behind one of America’s most profitable drug-industry empires, the privately held Purdue Pharma.

Last week, flacks at Purdue announced that the company will no longer be flooding doctors’ offices with sales representatives hawking OxyContin, the now-notorious opioid painkiller. This move may be the closest admission of guilt we will ever see from Purdue Pharma — or the patriarchs of the Sackler family that gave it birth.

The roots of Purdue’s criminal profiteering, as Patrick Radden Keefe has chillingly related in the New Yorker, stretch all the way back to three brothers in mid-20th century Brooklyn. All three — Arthur, Mortimer, and Raymond Sackler — became doctors. All three had an entrepreneurial bent. Arthur had entrepreneurial genius.

Arthur Sackler saw that the pharmaceutical industry of his day had no clue to the marketing magic — and magical profits — that modern Madison Avenue advertising approaches could fashion. He linked the two. His ad agency pioneered tactics that would revolutionize prescription drug marketing.

Pharmaceutical companies, under Arthur Sackler’s guidance, began hiring noted doctors to vouch for their products and subsidizing studies that showed how useful their products could be. Sackler’s campaigns deluged doctors’ offices with attractive promo brochures and filled medical journals with flashy ads.

The promotions sometimes played fast and loose. In 1959, one national magazine investigation found that doctors listed as endorsing a new Sackler-backed antibiotic didn’t exist.

The really big bucks from Sackler’s efforts started flowing in the 1960s. Sackler’s marketing miracles turned the tranquillizers Librium and Valium into everyday commodities. By 1973, millions of annual tranquillizer prescriptions had created what Senator Edward Kennedy bewailed as a “a nightmare of dependence and addiction.”


Dr. Raymond Sackler and his wife Beverly built a billionaire dollar empire on Opioids. (Purdue Pharma)

But Purdue Pharma, the drug company the Sacklers ran, had grander visions, and the company’s dreams revolved around exploiting the untapped potential of opioids, synthetic forms of opium that modern researchers had first started developing in the early 1900s. Doctors had always known that these opioids had a significant pain-killing capacity. Doctors also feared their addictive properties.

Purdue Pharma set out to overcome that fear, with a massive marketing campaign on behalf of OxyContin, the drug company’s new take on the opioid called oxycodone, a “chemical cousin of heroin” that can be “up to twice as powerful as morphine.” Purdue bankrolled widely circulated research that testified to OxyContin’s safety and urged physicians to prescribe the drug for all sorts of conditions.

A sales force that at one point boasted a thousand reps reinforced that message with countless in-person visits to medical offices. Purdue hired several thousand clinicians on top of that to sing OxyContin’s praises at medical conferences. The company even offered doctors “all-expenses-paid trips to pain-management seminars in places like Boca Raton.”

The campaign goal: nothing less than changing the prescription habits of America’s doctors.

The campaign succeeded. Purdue won FDA approval for OxyContin in 1995. Almost overnight the drug became a phenomenal medical marketplace success, eventually generating some $35 billion in revenue. The FDA examiner who ran the approval process would later come to work for Purdue.

But problems with OxyContin soon surfaced. People were becoming addicted, in part because Purdue made abusing OxyContin so easy. The drug was formulated to release slowly over 12 hours. But users could just crush the pills and get a quick high.

Purdue blamed the early reports of addictions on these abusers. But OxyContin had a much deeper problem. Purdue was marketing the drug’s long-lasting, 12-hour relief. In reality, the relief often lasted fewer hours, leaving conscientious users continually craving more of the drug and desperate to get it.

Purdue would systematically stonewall this reality year after year, lining up political heavy-hitters like former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to run interference. Lawsuits against Purdue did start proliferating in the early 2000s. Purdue made them go away, by settling out of court before any incriminating documents revealed in the pretrial discovery process could ever see the light of day.

Meanwhile, the death toll mounted. In hard-hit Pike County, Kentucky, nearly 30 percent of local residents either had lost a family member to OxyContin addiction or knew someone outside their family who did.

The fortune of the various branches of the Sackler clan mounted as well. The combined Sackler clan has become, Forbes calculates, one of America’s richest families, with a current net worth at $13 billion. In 2015, the Sacklers pulled in an estimated $700 million in income from their Big Pharma interests.

Amid this enormous fortune, the heirs to the original three Brooklyn brothers have fallen out with each other. Some are even feeling remorse. But others are looking for greener pastures abroad. With the domestic market for opioids seemingly saturated, opioid makers like Purdue Pharma are invading foreign markets.

These same companies, led by Purdue Pharma, are continuing to subsidize nonprofit groups that promote opioid use. Earlier this week, a report from U.S. Senator Claire McCaskill detailed how the nation’s five largest opioid makers handed over $10 million the last five years to 14 of these nonprofits and their affiliated doctors.

Revelations about the incredible extent of corporate opioid irresponsibility continue as well. A congressional committee has just found that “two of the nation’s biggest drug distributors shipped 12.3 million doses of powerful opioids to a single pharmacy in a tiny West Virginia town over an eight-year period.”

Behind every great fortune, the French novelist Honoré de Balzac once observed, lurks a crime.

Some crimes kill.

 
Fuck Big Pharma! Our medical system is so fucked up by those assholes combined with the insurance companies. I'm a self prescribed chronic pain medical cannabis patient and if they keep this shit up I'll just grow my own. I've been absent from the forum as I am on a work related t-break, it's difficult to restrain oneself reading about a favorite pastime! In the interim i've been researching grows on the inter webs and am more motivated every time I hear something like this or see a big pharma commercial!

I am also on my 3rd round of antibiotics amongst other things for a severe sinus infection and that just motivates me even more!
 
Living in a legal state I’m disappointed with the medical cannabis in our state. I feel the patients have been left in the dust. The edibles are all made by large companies and are around $30 for candies that have a total of 100mg of THC. There isnt good advise coming from bud tenders regarding medical cannabis because they don’t know anything. With my medical card I save on sales tax is all.

It cost me $100 for a doctor appt to get paperwork so I can get my card renewed each year. The mmj card is only a dollar.
 
There isnt good advise coming from bud tenders regarding medical cannabis because they don’t know anything.
I would have to agree with you here on the majority of the bud tenders here as well. There are some 'upscale' dispensaries that have more knowledgeable people on staff but you pay for it in the cost of your meds. I find sites like Leafly much more reliable in strain info.

It cost me $100 for a doctor appt to get paperwork so I can get my card renewed each year. The mmj card is only a dollar.
That's a deal. I pay $100 to be certified by a doctor, then the fee to the state is $60 but because I have a caregiver I have to pay an additional $25. The card is good for two years.

I will say that the dispensary cannabis I've tried so far has been top notch. But then again... I bought top shelf and not the 'regs.' And I tend to buy concentrates when I'm buying from a dispensary.

I dread the fact that I'm going to be needing opiates in the near future for surgery. They are so damn addictive and when you are in serious pain it's hard to not take them. I plan on stocking up with some serious concentrates and maybe even making some RSO and edibles beforehand. Hopefully that will curb some of the 'need' for opiates.
 

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