Killick
Well-Known Member
A bit of clarification - I'm not a recreational user, and haven't been since the 70s. 5 years ago I became a medical patient, after an extended hospital stay resulted in a wishy-washy diagnosis of 'it's probably related to pain or arthritis medications. Stop those and see if things get better'. Thats when my pain doctor recommended cannabis. At first I have to admit to a sense of scepticism, but things started somehow working better. So I started experimenting. The first time I made budder I was convinced that I was taking 2 weeks of medications and making compost, but it worked. And the effects worked just like the instructions said they would. So I started experimenting. I have a wierd background, so the experiments have gotten a bit more obtuse, but the odd thing is that the more research and experiments one performs, the more one realizes that the results are pretty much as expected, and positive. I've displaced all pharmaceutical meds. There is still pain, but it's more manageable now. I still do other therapies, such as physio and prolo, with RF ablations and IMS treatments being particularly helpful. These combined with cannabis, including infused topicals, have worked where the meds did nothing but cause chaos and hospitalizations.
Speaking about C02 extractions... I'm constantly looking for new and different ways to make extractions and concentrates at home. The key, for me, is home-based methods. I've tried several dozens of methods with varying success, and have a few that I stick with. My fave solventless method, this month, is dry sift. Done properly it takes a little time, but it's cheap and effective. It's also dabable if thats your thing, although the trichome heads will leave a little residue, which pressing into rosin will resolve.
Alcohol extractions are another handy method. Ethyl alcohol is food safe, so if it's not purged it's a tincture. Even better when you make your own ET extraction alcohol. A distillation unit of some sort is required to get to the 90% alcohol range, or EverClear equivalency. The Green Oil Machine, Megahome Distiller, or other tabletop units work for small batches, or Clawhammer Supply will sell larger kits online.
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Alcohol-from-Common-Table-Sugar
I've just realized that this part of the post is more about extraction than CBD, so @momofthegoons might want to move it. But any of these methods will work with CBD, provided you start with a strain high in CBD.
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"In other words, CO2 extraction is the key to understanding the hidden medical benefits of the other, less prevalent, cannabinoids and how they work together (a process known as the entourage effect) when the whole plant is used as medicine."
From this sentence I gather that the reason for making isolates is to better understand the entourage effect of whole plant meds by stripping them into their individual components. The inverse of this is that if whole plant medications work so well, why would a patient want to use isolates, and risk missing the components that are having a positive impact on their condition? It does makes sense that each component could be concentrated to work specifically on one particular physiological condition. This is the premise of modern molecular medications. I can understand why researchers would want to get a better understanding of the various components. This makes isolate users more like guinea pigs, testing isolated components to see what type of side effects they may experience. Fortunately the side effects are non-toxic (assumption, based on the fact that whole plant meds aren't toxic). This also means we can do our own research, and as patients we have a vested interest in experiments that will work specifically on our own conditions, so we can test these things on ourselves.
This is the link where the above quote came from. An interesting article... https://honestmarijuana.com/co2-extraction/
Here's an 'affordable' C02 extractor. It's $4k, plus $2500 for 'expansion racks'. There's a brief vid in the link that explains how it works. I recall seeing a much more cost effective one, being built in a garage in Canada and being sold online, but can't find the link.
https://ocolabs.com/extractors/
Here's a link to Skunk Pharm Research attempts at making a home made C02 extractor. SPR is a great website. They've been using science and engineering skills to show how to safely do things at home. Note the word 'safely', as many places are a little skimpy on that piece..
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/affordable-diy-co2-extraction/
Speaking about C02 extractions... I'm constantly looking for new and different ways to make extractions and concentrates at home. The key, for me, is home-based methods. I've tried several dozens of methods with varying success, and have a few that I stick with. My fave solventless method, this month, is dry sift. Done properly it takes a little time, but it's cheap and effective. It's also dabable if thats your thing, although the trichome heads will leave a little residue, which pressing into rosin will resolve.
Alcohol extractions are another handy method. Ethyl alcohol is food safe, so if it's not purged it's a tincture. Even better when you make your own ET extraction alcohol. A distillation unit of some sort is required to get to the 90% alcohol range, or EverClear equivalency. The Green Oil Machine, Megahome Distiller, or other tabletop units work for small batches, or Clawhammer Supply will sell larger kits online.
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Alcohol-from-Common-Table-Sugar
I've just realized that this part of the post is more about extraction than CBD, so @momofthegoons might want to move it. But any of these methods will work with CBD, provided you start with a strain high in CBD.
~~~
"In other words, CO2 extraction is the key to understanding the hidden medical benefits of the other, less prevalent, cannabinoids and how they work together (a process known as the entourage effect) when the whole plant is used as medicine."
From this sentence I gather that the reason for making isolates is to better understand the entourage effect of whole plant meds by stripping them into their individual components. The inverse of this is that if whole plant medications work so well, why would a patient want to use isolates, and risk missing the components that are having a positive impact on their condition? It does makes sense that each component could be concentrated to work specifically on one particular physiological condition. This is the premise of modern molecular medications. I can understand why researchers would want to get a better understanding of the various components. This makes isolate users more like guinea pigs, testing isolated components to see what type of side effects they may experience. Fortunately the side effects are non-toxic (assumption, based on the fact that whole plant meds aren't toxic). This also means we can do our own research, and as patients we have a vested interest in experiments that will work specifically on our own conditions, so we can test these things on ourselves.
This is the link where the above quote came from. An interesting article... https://honestmarijuana.com/co2-extraction/
Here's an 'affordable' C02 extractor. It's $4k, plus $2500 for 'expansion racks'. There's a brief vid in the link that explains how it works. I recall seeing a much more cost effective one, being built in a garage in Canada and being sold online, but can't find the link.
https://ocolabs.com/extractors/
Here's a link to Skunk Pharm Research attempts at making a home made C02 extractor. SPR is a great website. They've been using science and engineering skills to show how to safely do things at home. Note the word 'safely', as many places are a little skimpy on that piece..
https://skunkpharmresearch.com/affordable-diy-co2-extraction/
