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Law Driving - Road testing

Well @Baron23 I know you probably wont agree with these findings....

First of its Kind Study Finds Virtually No Driving Impairment Under the Influence of Marijuana

As cannabis prohibition laws crumble seemingly by the day, it’s allowing more research to be performed on this psychoactive substance that has long been a part of the human experience.

The first study to analyze the effects of cannabis on driving performance found that it caused almost no impairment. The impairment that it did cause was similar to that observed under the influence of a legal alcohol limit.

Researchers at the University of Iowa’s National Advanced Driving Simulator carried out the study, sponsored by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, National Institute of Drug Abuse, and the Office of National Drug Control Policy

In fact, some would argue that it makes them drive safer or slower.

The study’s findings further illuminate the fact that alcohol is a much more dangerous drug than cannabis, and somehow the former is legal while the latter is not.

With cannabis being decriminalized across the country, law enforcement will be getting their “rules and regulations” in place for the driving masses. They should be based on science and not Reefer Madness mentalities.

Another important finding should deter any attempts to deploy instant roadside tests for THC-blood levels.

“THE STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT ANALYZING A DRIVER’S ORAL FLUIDS CAN DETECT RECENT USE OF MARIJUANA BUT IS NOT A RELIABLE MEASURE OF IMPAIRMENT.

“EVERYONE WANTS A BREATHALYZER WHICH WORKS FOR ALCOHOL BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS METABOLIZED IN THE LUNGS,” SAYS ANDREW SPURGIN, A POSTDOCTORAL RESEARCH FELLOW WITH THE UI COLLEGE OF PHARMACY. “BUT FOR CANNABIS THIS ISN’T AS SIMPLE DUE TO THC’S METABOLIC AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES.”



“ONCE IN THE SIMULATOR—A 1996 MALIBU SEDAN MOUNTED IN A 24-FEET DIAMETER DOME—THE DRIVERS WERE ASSESSED ON WEAVING WITHIN THE LANE, HOW OFTEN THE CAR LEFT THE LANE, AND THE SPEED OF THE WEAVING. DRIVERS WITH ONLY ALCOHOL IN THEIR SYSTEMS SHOWED IMPAIRMENT IN ALL THREE AREAS WHILE THOSE STRICTLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF VAPORIZED CANNABIS ONLY DEMONSTRATED PROBLEMS WEAVING WITHIN THE LANE.

DRIVERS WITH BLOOD CONCENTRATIONS OF 13.1 UG/L THC, OR DELTA-9-TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL, THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN MARIJUANA, SHOWED INCREASED WEAVING THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THOSE WITH A .08 BREATH ALCOHOL CONCENTRATION, THE LEGAL LIMIT IN MOST STATES. THE LEGAL LIMIT FOR THC IN WASHINGTON AND COLORADO IS 5 UG/L, THE SAME AMOUNT OTHER STATES HAVE CONSIDERED.”

As expected, there was impairment in all areas when alcohol and cannabis were mixed. But cannabis itself, when taken in moderate amounts, seems to cause no significant driving impairment.


You are right...I would like to see some more studies (peer reviewed) as this goes against my personal experience (that is, me and others over a very long time of cannabis use).

As far as I can tell, this study just looked at lane control...that is; weaving or not weaving. There is much more to driving than that and in particular there is reaction time and situational awareness that, IMO, are definitely impacted by cannabis.
 
As far as I can tell, this study just looked at lane control...that is; weaving or not weaving. There is much more to driving than that and in particular there is reaction time and situational awareness that, IMO, are definitely impacted by cannabis.
An issue here is that we need to consider that different drugs affect people differently brother. Consider for example that amphetamine type compounds have nearly opposite effects on an individual with ADHD than when the same dose is given to somebody without ADHD. In fact, it is even more relevant that there is a body of literature reflecting that persons with ADHD are safer drivers when driving under the influence of amphetamine type stimulants (as well as ritalin) than without. This is noteworthy because people with ADHD are considered to be at a significantly greater risk of traffic incidents than other cohorts.

Eventually - when there is a sufficient body of research literature to account for the impacts of individual differences in physiology (especially neurological conditions, as with the ADHD example above) on the effects of cannabis when driving - I suspect that we'll learn that there is no difference in driving capacities for some such cohorts due to such physiological differences. This corresponds with my own anecdotal knowledge of relevant cases. Of course, this is in no way diminishing your own personal experience. In any case, that body of literature will necessarily take decades to be carried out and completed before we'll have enough evidence to extrapolate to all different kinds of cases.

If I were to forecast what such literature will show us in the future; I believe that there may be some cohorts whose driving is affected in a way that may be clinically significant, but I equally expect that there will be others that are not. With time, as the research catches up, I am sure there'll be some surprises for us all along the way :peace:
 
Study: Medical Marijuana Access Not Associated With Greater Prevalence Of Cannabis-Positive Drivers

Thursday, 21 June 2018


Atlanta, GA: The enactment of medical cannabis laws is not independently associated with a significant uptick in drug prevalence among fatally injured drivers, according to data published in the journal Accident Analysis and Prevention.

An investigator with Georgia State University assessed the relationship between the passage of medical marijuana access laws and the prevalence of fatally-injured drivers testing positive for the drug's presence over a 20-year period. The crash data made no determination with regard to whether the driver was either impaired at the time of the accident or if he/she was at fault.

The study concluded: "[M]edical marijuana laws in general have null effects on the prevalence of cannabis-positive driving. The key exception is for ... states that regulate the sale of cannabis though dispensaries, a policy framework that was shown to increase the probability of cannabis-positive driving by .011-.014, depending on the counterfactual policy. However, ... this is a relatively small effect, representing an additional 87-113 cannabis-positive drivers in 2014 who were involved in fatal vehicle accidents who might not otherwise have been."

Because THC's inactive metabolites may be present for weeks or even months following marijuana use, it is generally not possible to determine whether cannabis-positive subjects have recently ingested the substance or were under its influence at the time of a motor vehicle accident.

Prior studies have determined that neither the passage of medical marijuana laws or adult use cannabis laws is associated with an increase in overall traffic crashes or fatalities. According to the findings of a 2016 study published in The American Journal of Public Health, medical cannabis laws are associated with a reduction in traffic fatalities among drivers between 25 and 44 years of age. A separate studypublished that same year reported a decrease in the prevalence of opioid-positive drivers involved in fatal accidents following the enactment of medical marijuana legalization.
 
"Furlan suggests those who smoke or use vaporized forms of cannabis wait six hours before driving a vehicle"
I think this is a little alarmist. Six hours?


How high is too high? Researchers look for ways to measure stoned driving.

Michigan residents will vote on the legalization of recreational marijuana November 9.

The state has strict laws against driving while drunk, and cops can test how intoxicated someone is with a quick breathalyzer test.

But if weed is legalized, how will law enforcement identify someone who is driving while high?

Dr. Andrea Furlan has been searching for this answer.

She is a staff physician at the Toronto Rehabilitation Institute and an associate professor in the Department of Medicine at the University of Toronto. She spoke with Stateside’s Cynthia Canty about her research in impaired driving.

While individual states in the U.S. push towards legalization, our Canadian neighbors voted to legalize recreational marijuana nationwide beginning on October 17. Therefore, Furlan’s search for these answers is urgent.

Luckily for her, Furlan and her team have access to Canada’s most advanced driving simulator. Using virtual reality and a 360-degree projection system, participants feel almost like they are on a real road.

The simulator is located within the hospital building, and therefore is able to recruit hospital patients with cognitive impairments as well as those under the influence of opioids, anti-depressants, sleeping pills, and cannabis.

Driving drunk vs driving high

Alcohol and cannabis have very different effects on the human brain. Furlan said alcohol first impacts the judgement part of your brain located in your frontal lobe. Cannabis, on the other hand, does not.

“When people are under the influence of cannabis, they still know, they are conscious about the impairment. So there is an opportunity for the person using cannabis to self-regulate to determine if this is safe or not to do,” Furlan explained.

Unfortunately, Furlan said many recreational marijuana users mix cannabis with alcohol. Those who use marijuana for medicinal purposes are instructed to avoid alcohol.

“If they use alcohol and cannabis together, they will be impaired by the alcohol, but also different areas of the brain will be impaired by cannabis, and they will be much more impaired than only one substance.”

When a participant enters the driving stimulator under the influence of alcohol, Furlan said they drive faster, get much closer to the car in front of them, and do more unsafe maneuvers with their car.

Those under the influence of cannabis typically drove slower. Furlan said this is not because they are driving safer, but because their reaction time is impaired.

“People under the influence of cannabis, they aren’t only driving slower. They also have a distorted perception of time and distorted perception of space," Furlan said. "The brain is giving them information that is not totally accurate.”

The degree of impairment is also dependent on the level of THC in the body. THC is the chemical compound which creates the feeling of euphoria. Furlan said more THC could result in drivers taking greater risks.

Policing high driving

When an individual’s blood alcohol content (BAC) reaches 0.08, they are legally considered to be impaired under U.S. law.

While officers can pull over a car and test for BAC on site, Furlan said there is no equivalent for cannabis.

“People develop tolerance to the effects of cannabis — the THC. Like all patients who use THC regularly, daily, for many years, the body develops this tolerance, and the psychotropic effects are not observed any more, but they will still be tested positive in the saliva, blood, or urine.”

Furlan and her team are working to develop behavioral tests which could be used on the roadside with a computer or tablet. She believes in the future all cars will include screens where a driver will complete a set of tests in order to start the car.

Until then, Furlan suggests those who smoke or use vaporized forms of cannabis wait six hours before driving a vehicle. If the cannabis is consumed through an edible, individuals should wait 10 to 12 hours.
 
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Roadside drug testing device picks up false positives from poppy seeds and tea, B.C. lawyers find

Police are continuing to remind people not to get high before driving. But what about the dangers of eating poppy seed cake?

A Vancouver lawyer says her suspicions about the new Drager DrugTest 5000 roadside testing device have been confirmed after her law firm ran two days of testing that turned up false positives.

The saliva-screening device was approved by the federal government ahead of cannabis legalization last October to be used by law enforcement to check drivers for THC, the main psychoactive agent in marijuana.

Kyla Lee with Acumen Law already had concerns about the device when it was approved, namely that it only detects the presence of drugs rather than impairment.

On Sunday, Lee said her staff ran two days of tests on the device and found it can be even more problematic.

“We had several individuals eat poppy seed loaf from Tim Hortons and poppy seed cake they made at home. All of those people tested positive in the saliva test for opiates, and later tested positive in subsequent urine tests,” Lee said.

“So if a police officer were to pull those people over and gave them a saliva test, they would be arrested.”

If that person then tested positive for opiates in a urine test at the station, Lee said, that person could be charged with impaired driving.

Lee said the tests also found similar positive results for cocaine after staff drank coca tea, which derives from the same plant and is commonly available.

“That’s so concerning, because in our legal system we have a zero-tolerance threshold for cocaine,” she said. “Any detectable amount of cocaine in your system means you’re guilty of a criminal offence.”

Finally, Lee said the testing found the Drager is unable to differentiate between THC and CBD, which is the non-psychoactive agent in cannabis and is often treated for medical treatment and pain relief.

“We found there was a retention period of half an hour. It was still found in the mouth even though there were no lingering effects in the body,” she said.

The studies included control groups of people that didn’t ingest anything that passed the test, Lee said, but those who consumed the above products did “incredibly poorly.”

Lee said the information found through the testing could spell doom for convictions sought through positive roadside results at police stops,

“People who are wanting to try different kinds of tea are now at risk of being charged with impaired driving,” Lee said. “It’s another example of how the government really failed in approving this device.”

The device has been called into question before, with independent testing finding the Drager stopped working altogether in temperatures lower than 4 degrees Celsius.

Vancouver police announced in September it wouldn’t be using the Drager device, with other Lower Mainland and Fraser Valley departments adopting a wait-and-see approach.

Abbotsford police, meanwhile, confirmed Sunday they have acquired a Drager device and are conducting their own tests.

The department said they haven’t seen any data that would put the reliability of the device in doubt.

Global News has reached out to the Department of Justice and B.C. Solicitor General Mike Farnworth for comment.

Lee said Ottawa should conduct further testing and potentially recall the device until the government is positive it can be effective — or find another device that is.

“They relied on an assurance from the manufacturer that they had tested the device, but the literature provided said they only tested half a dozen things,” she said.

“We need to put more effort in this country into finding a device that can tell the difference between something that’s impairing a person and something that’s merely present in their system.”
 
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Why WA State Officials Have a Hard Time Charging People with DUI for Marijuana Use

The more long-term marijuana users are studied, the more we learn that THC levels may remain high in their body even if they are not currently under the influence. Some experts believe that you can’t really tell if someone is impaired by their THC blood levels alone. Again, although overall traffic-related fatalities have not grown, the THC content in drivers’ blood has.

According to CNN, “But coming up with a test to get impaired drivers off the road will be far more difficult than the blood alcohol tests used to test for drunk drivers, according to the group. While tests show the ability to drive gets worse as blood alcohol rises, laboratory studies show the same is not necessarily true with increased levels of THC, the main chemical component in marijuana, in the blood. One driver with high levels of THC might not be impaired, while another driver with very low levels can be impaired.”

Proof of driving while under the influence of marijuana may elude law enforcement currently, but that will change as technologies for measurement become more accurate.

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When I vape, I don't want to drive. When I drink, I want to drive. Far. And fast. I don't drink and drive, but I want to. Weird.
After a few drinks I'm up for most anything. "Hey, hold my beer and watch this". Said the now dead idiot.
After a few bowls, "Hey, listen to this". Said the stoned music lover.
 
Congressional Report Raises Questions About Whether Marijuana Impairs Driving

Concerns expressed by lawmakers that marijuana legalization will make the roads more dangerous might not be totally founded, a congressional research body said in a recent report. In fact, the experts tasked by the House and Senate with looking into the issue found that evidence about cannabis’s ability to impair driving is currently inconclusive.

While law enforcement has well-established tools to identify impaired driving from alcohol, developing technology to do the same for cannabis has proved difficult. Not only is the technology lacking, but questions remain as to how THC affects driving skills in the first place and what levels of THC should be considered safe.

“Although laboratory studies have shown that marijuana consumption can affect a person’s response times and motor performance, studies of the impact of marijuana consumption on a driver’s risk of being involved in a crash have produced conflicting results, with some studies finding little or no increased risk of a crash from marijuana usage,” the Congressional Research Service (CRS) wrote.

What’s more, “studies have been unable to consistently correlate levels of marijuana consumption, or THC in a person’s body, and levels of impairment.”

Both advocates and opponents of marijuana reform strongly support finding a resolution to the impaired driving detection issue. But experts aren’t so confident that researchers will be able to develop something akin to an alcohol breathalyzer, as the most promising attempts have only been able to determine whether a person has smoked within recent hours.

What’s striking about the report from Congress’s official research arm is that it repeatedly states it’s not clear that cannabis consumption is associated with an increased risk of traffic accidents. In general, the issue has been treated as something of a given in congressional hearings, with some lawmakers arguing that loosening federal cannabis laws would lead to a spike in traffic deaths.

That argument was echoed in a separate House Appropriations Committee report that was released on Monday. A section of the document described ongoing concerns about drugged driving “due to the increase in States legalizing marijuana use” and designated funds to help law enforcement identify impaired driving from cannabis.

The CRS report, which was published last month, signals that the problem isn’t quite as cut and dry as lawmakers might think.

Researchers have found on several occasions that traffic fatalities do not increase after a state legalizes marijuana.

Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that both opponents and supporters of legalization generally caution against driving under the influence.

“Cannabis inhalation in a dose-response manner may influence certain aspects of psychomotor performance, particularly in those who are more naive to its effect,” Paul Armentano, deputy director of NORML, told Marijuana Moment. “But this influence is typically short-lived and is far less acute than the psychomotor effects associate with alcohol.”

“By contrast, THC’s unique absorption profile and prolonged detection window in blood makes it so that—unlike as is the case with alcohol—the detection of THC in blood is not necessarily indicative of either recency of use or behavioral impairment,” he said.

The congressional report discusses the limitations of technology in detecting active impairment from cannabis and details previous studies on traffic trends in states that have reformed their cannabis laws. It also lays out legislative options for Congress to “aid policymaking around the issue of marijuana and impairment.”

As it stands, states have generally enforced impaired driving laws through one of two processes. Some states “require that the state prove that a driver’s impairment was caused by the substance or behavior at issue” while others have per se laws asserting that “a driver is automatically guilty of driving while impaired if specified levels of a potentially impairing substance are found in his or her body.”

But it’s significantly easier to prove impairment for alcohol however you cut it, the report explains.

“Detecting impairment due to use of marijuana is more difficult. The body metabolizes marijuana differently from alcohol,” the authors wrote. “The level of THC (the psychoactive ingredient of marijuana) in the body drops quickly within an hour after usage, yet traces of THC (nonpsychoactive metabolites) can still be found in the body weeks after usage of marijuana.”

Further there is “as yet no scientifically demonstrated correlation between levels of THC and degrees of impairment of driver performance, and epidemiological studies disagree as to whether marijuana use by a driver results in increased crash risk.”

Detecting impairment from cannabis is additionally complicated by another extraneous circumstance: variation in THC potency. The THC concentration conundrum is exacerbated by the fact that the only source of federal, research-grade cannabis “is considered by some researchers to be low quality,” the report stated, referring to studies showing that the government’s marijuana supply does not chemically reflect what’s available in state-legal commercial markets.

CRS also looked at the “inconsistent” results of studies examining the effects of cannabis use on traffic incidents. While some have indicated that consumption poses an increased risk on the road, the report argues that some may be conflating correlation and causation.

“Relatively few epidemiological studies of marijuana usage and crash risk have been conducted, and the few that have been conducted have generally found low or no increased risk of crashes from marijuana use,” CRS wrote.

After going through several other related issues, CRS laid out a couple of choices for Congress when it comes to dealing with the impaired driving issue. Those options include “continued research into whether a quantitative standard can be established that correlates the level of THC in a person’s body and the level of impairment” and compiling “better data on the prevalence of marijuana use by drivers, especially among drivers involved in crashes and drivers arrested for impaired driving.”

One of the last elements the report specifically focused on was federally mandated drug testing for individuals in “safety sensitive” jobs in the transportation sector. Interestingly, CRS seemed to suggest that, given the issues they outlined with respect to difficulties identifying active impairment from THC, the government should reevaluate whether suspensions for testing positive should be permanent.

“CRS could not identify any data on how many safety-sensitive transportation employees have lost their jobs as a result of positive tests for marijuana use,” the report states. “Considering the length of time that marijuana is detectable in the body after usage, and the uncertainty about the impairing effect of marijuana on driving performance, Congress and other federal policymakers may elect to reexamine the rationale for testing all safety-sensitive transportation workers for marijuana usage.”

“Alternatively, Congress and federal policymakers may opt to maintain the status quo until more research results become available,” the report advised.

Armentano, of NORML, said that legislators should be way of enacting policies focused on levels of THC or metabolites in drivers.

“As more states consider amending their cannabis consumption laws, lawmakers would best served to avoid amending traffic safety laws in a manner that relies solely on the presence of THC or its metabolites as determinants of driving impairment,” he said. “Otherwise, the imposition of traffic safety laws may inadvertently become a criminal mechanism for law enforcement and prosecutors to punish those who have engage in legally protected behavior and who have not posed any actionable traffic safety threat.”
 
While this article is mostly regarding roadside testing in Australia, I think the problem is world wide. The test just isn't accurate.

Roadside drug tests for cannabis return false results, research finds


Police direct drivers into a drug testing van.
PHOTO: The study found tests used by Australian police sometimes delivered incorrect results. (ABC News: Sarah Collard)

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A study of roadside drug testing devices widely used by police in Australia has called into question their reliability for detecting cannabis.

Key points:
  • The study found tests commonly used by police often failed to detect THC
  • They also delivered false positives up to 10 per cent of the time
  • But another researcher said the tests were still an effective way of reducing drug-driving


"What we found was that these test results often came back positive when they should have been negative, or conversely that they came back negative when they should have actually been positive," said Thomas Arkell, a PhD student at the University of Sydney.

The study, published in the journal Drug Testing and Analysis, tested the two devices most commonly used by police — the Securetec DrugWipe, and the Draeger DrugTest 5000.

It found the devices frequently failed to detect high concentrations of THC — the main psychoactive ingredient in cannabis — with false negative rates of 9 per cent and 16 per cent respectively.

They also recorded positive results when saliva THC concentrations were very low or negligible, with false positive rates of 5 per cent and 10 per cent.

The study found the accuracy, specificity and sensitivity of the two devices fell below the levels recommended by European Union authorities.

A drug test.
PHOTO: The Securetec DrugWipe is one of two main tests used by Australian police. (Supplied: ACT Police)



Iain McGregor, the academic director of the Lambert Initiative for Cannabinoid Therapeutics at Sydney University and the senior author of the study, said the results compared poorly with the blood alcohol testing system.

"Imagine using a breathalyser that 16 per cent of the time didn't detect that a driver was intoxicated, and 5 per cent of the time pinged them if they were only at .01 or .02," Professor McGregor said.
"Detecting impairment due to cannabis use is an important goal in promoting road safety, but using saliva tests to do this appears fraught with issues."

Australia has been a world leader in roadside drug testing since it was introduced in Victoria in 2004. It is now done in all Australian states and territories.

Next year, NSW Police plans to conduct 200,000 roadside saliva tests and it was recently reported that the Victorian Government plans to increase the number of roadside drug tests to 400,000 over the next two years.

Drug-driving risks 'more complicated' than alcohol
Michael Fitzharris from Monash University's Accident Research Centre said he was confident the roadside drug testing regime was doing its job, because it involved a series of tests to confirm the presence of THC.

"That means there is an extremely high degree of confidence in detecting recent use, and hence impairment of the skills needed for driving," Professor Fitzharris said.

"The system is designed to permit mass screening in the same way breath-testing is performed. It should be seen as an effective program to manage the drug-driving problem in Australia, and it's now being used as a template by other jurisdictions around the world."

A man in a light blue collared shirt leans with his elbows on office table looking towards the camera.
PHOTO: Michael Fitzharris said he had confidence in the saliva tests. (ABC News: Peter Drought)



But the testing regime has hit roadblocks in the Australian courts.

In July, NSW Magistrate David Heilpern said the regime was "characterised by mystery and uncertainty by design", after he found a man not guilty of drug-driving.

The man had admitted sharing a joint two days before being detected with THC in his system, but said he had relied on advice from the NSW Centre for Road Safety that it could only be detected for up to 12 hours after use.

"The 12-hour advice is nothing more than a cruel underestimation that gives people specious information, lulls them into a false sense of security, and leads to greater levels of detection, criminalisation and loss of licence," Magistrate Heilpern said.

Earlier this year, he accepted the passive smoking defence of a driver who said she had not smoked cannabis in the weeks leading up to her roadside test, but she had visited her terminally ill neighbour who was smoking medicinal cannabis in her presence.

Professor McGregor said simply testing for the presence of THC was not the most effective way of removing drug-affected drivers from the roads.

"It's very different to alcohol, where there is a linear relationship between blood alcohol and the risk of a crash," he said.
"The relationship between salivary THC and crash risk is more complicated.

Professor Iain McGregor turns towards the camera from the seat of a driver simulation chair.
PHOTO: Iain McGregor said the saliva tests alone did not tell the full story. (ABC News: Billy Cooper)



"If you take it in a capsule, it will bypass your saliva — and yet you might have a very high dose. Yet you can have someone with THC in their saliva who is not intoxicated.

"We need far better tests to go after impairment. It might be better to use a field sobriety test rather than simply looking at levels of THC."

NSW Police said it had charged almost 19,000 drivers through mobile drug testing, which continues to roll out through the state's road network.

Victoria Police declined to comment.
 

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