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I LOVE seeing Scott and his anti-democratic cronies in the FL legislature get their ass handed to them by the courts over their refusal to implement the will of the electorate as expressed in the constitutional amendment that passed with 71% of the vote. Case after case they seem to be on the losing side.....GOOD!

But I can't believe that FL sent Scott to the Senate....can't you keep your political riff-raff to yourself down there in FL? haha


Florida's smokable medical marijuana case remains up in the air


An appeals court has refused to indefinitely put on hold a challenge to the state’s prohibition on smoking medical marijuana.

The case is centered on whether a 2017 law that banned patients from smoking medical marijuana ran afoul of a constitutional amendment that broadly legalized the cannabis treatment for Floridians with debilitating medical conditions.

After a Leon County circuit judge sided with the plaintiffs, the state – under former Gov. Rick Scott – appealed the ruling. Last week, Gov. Ron DeSantis said he wanted the Legislature to do away with the ban, and he gave lawmakers until mid-March to address the issue, saying they failed to properly implement the voter-approved amendment.

“I want to have the elected representatives write the law in the way that the people intended. We’ll give them a couple weeks in session to address the smoking issue. And if they don’t do it, we’re going to dismiss the case. We’re going to move on,” the governor said Thursday.

Shortly afterward, lawyers representing the Florida Department of Health and the plaintiffs filed a joint motion asking the 1st District Court of Appeal to put the case “in abeyance” until the issue is resolved.

On Tuesday, the appeals court refused to grant the open-ended request but allowed the parties to seek a stay “specifying the amount of time needed for the movants to discuss potential resolution of the appeal.”
 
Beyond ridiculous....

Proposal to End Medical Marijuana Smoking Ban in Florida Hits Possible Snag

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The Florida House's top health committee passed legislation Tuesday to eliminate the state's ban on smoking medical marijuana but attached a key restriction that could imperil the measure's chances of becoming law.

Under the legislation, medical marijuana patients authorized by their doctors to smoke the drug would be barred from rolling their own joints. Instead, they'd have to purchase pre-rolled filtered marijuana cigarettes from licensed dispensaries.

The proposal is a reaction to Gov. Ron DeSantis' threat to drop the state's appeal of a ruling striking down the 2017 smoking ban as unconstitutional. The governor's giving lawmakers until March 15 to pass repeal legislation.

"If that decision were to stand, what we'd be facing essentially would be the wild, wild west when it comes to the use of medical marijuana," said Rep. Ray Rodrigues (R-Estero), the chairman of the House Health and Human Services Committee. "We believe there should be guardrails around that, so that's why we've reconvened and we've put this bill together."

On balance the legislation is less restrictive than a measure passed last week by the Senate's health committee. That proposal would require two doctors to certify that a patient's use of smokable medical marijuana is the only effective treatment for their condition.

Medical marijuana advocates who dismissed the Senate's bill as far too restrictive now favor the House version, at least grudgingly.

"You may be losing some of those flavinoids and terpines that are part of the whole thing, but you know what? In the context of how far we've come since 2014, that is certainly something we can continue to discuss," Florida Cannabis Action Network President Jodi James told the House panel shortly before Tuesday's vote, referring to the effect cigarette filters could have on marijuana consumption.

If the House bill isn't amended to remove the filtered cigarette requirement — and, similarly, if the certification provision isn't removed from the Senate bill — there's a high likelihood the chambers won't be able to reach a compromise by the governor's deadline.

The drug's critics, however, warned House members to take a more restrictive approach to allowing smoking. Deriding marijuana as a gateway drug, they spoke of the potential for it to fall into the wrong hands.

"The more strict rules and regulations you can put on medical marijuana will keep it out of the hands of our kids," said Ellen Snelling, a member of the Hillsborough County Anti-Drug Alliance.
 
Beyond ridiculous....

Proposal to End Medical Marijuana Smoking Ban in Florida Hits Possible Snag

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The Florida House's top health committee passed legislation Tuesday to eliminate the state's ban on smoking medical marijuana but attached a key restriction that could imperil the measure's chances of becoming law.

Under the legislation, medical marijuana patients authorized by their doctors to smoke the drug would be barred from rolling their own joints. Instead, they'd have to purchase pre-rolled filtered marijuana cigarettes from licensed dispensaries.

The proposal is a reaction to Gov. Ron DeSantis' threat to drop the state's appeal of a ruling striking down the 2017 smoking ban as unconstitutional. The governor's giving lawmakers until March 15 to pass repeal legislation.

"If that decision were to stand, what we'd be facing essentially would be the wild, wild west when it comes to the use of medical marijuana," said Rep. Ray Rodrigues (R-Estero), the chairman of the House Health and Human Services Committee. "We believe there should be guardrails around that, so that's why we've reconvened and we've put this bill together."

On balance the legislation is less restrictive than a measure passed last week by the Senate's health committee. That proposal would require two doctors to certify that a patient's use of smokable medical marijuana is the only effective treatment for their condition.

Medical marijuana advocates who dismissed the Senate's bill as far too restrictive now favor the House version, at least grudgingly.

"You may be losing some of those flavinoids and terpines that are part of the whole thing, but you know what? In the context of how far we've come since 2014, that is certainly something we can continue to discuss," Florida Cannabis Action Network President Jodi James told the House panel shortly before Tuesday's vote, referring to the effect cigarette filters could have on marijuana consumption.

If the House bill isn't amended to remove the filtered cigarette requirement — and, similarly, if the certification provision isn't removed from the Senate bill — there's a high likelihood the chambers won't be able to reach a compromise by the governor's deadline.

The drug's critics, however, warned House members to take a more restrictive approach to allowing smoking. Deriding marijuana as a gateway drug, they spoke of the potential for it to fall into the wrong hands.

"The more strict rules and regulations you can put on medical marijuana will keep it out of the hands of our kids," said Ellen Snelling, a member of the Hillsborough County Anti-Drug Alliance.
If they keep doing this stupid shit, then they will just keep being sued.

Best outcome, DeSantis drop's state appeal, lower court ruling goes into effect, and the entire state tells the legislature to go fuck itself.
 
Hey now snowbirds.... :naughty2:

Florida lawmakers want to honor medical marijuana ID cards from other states

Florida lawmakers are pushing a bipartisan measure that would honor medical marijuana identification cards from other states.

HB 557 and SB 1328 would provide "reciprocity" for qualified patients and caregivers who are not residents. The House measure was filed earlier in January by Rep. Ralph Massullo, R-Lecanto, and Rep. David Silvers, D-Lake Clarke Shores, while the Senate version was filed last week by Sen. Ben Albritton, R-Wauchula.

The bill would allow the use of qualified patient or caregiver identification cards issued by other states or U.S. territories to get medical marijuana in Florida.

The out-of-state identifications would have "the same force and effect as a medical marijuana use registry identification card issued by the Department of Health," according to the measure.

The proposal requires that for each non-resident who qualifies as a patient or caregiver, the state Health Department shall enter into the medical marijuana use registry a certification or its equivalent from a physician who has physically examined the patient and is licensed to practice.

The certification must specify "the amount and the type of marijuana or marijuana delivery device recommended for medical use by such non-resident patient," according to the bill.
 
Hey you guys!!!!!
I'm a FL mmu! It's official!:aaaaa:


Can't wait to check out the limited flower options and excited for the 15th deadline for the smoking ban to get that flower ball rolling because 55$ 1/8 for MEDICINE is :smackdown:


:weed:Never thought I'd finally make it here.



:partyhat:
Congratulations elykpeace! :thumbsup:
 
Congratulations elykpeace! :thumbsup:
Thanks :sunbathing:

Expensive as heck tho! The process in Cali was much easier and way less. And the limits set are dumb because I can just call and the Dr raises it? Why set caps.. oh right it's a business to these guys. They need to acknowledge what we've known all along. It's medicine. Insurance companies should be paying for it that's for sure.. I hope this changes soon. It's been getting better little by little. Slowly.





Tax revenue you say:homersimpson: Lol come on de santis
 


Senate to quickly take up smokable medical marijuana


TALLAHASSEE — With Gov. Ron DeSantis wanting lawmakers to act by March 15, the Senate this week will take up a bill that would allow patients to smoke medical marijuana in Florida.

The bill (SB 182), sponsored by Sen. Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, will be among the first bills the Senate considers during its first full floor session Thursday, according to a calendar posted online Monday night.

The 2019 legislative session starts Tuesday.

Lawmakers in 2017 approved a wide-ranging bill to carry out a 2016 constitutional amendment that broadly legalized medical marijuana.

But the 2017 law banned smoking medical marijuana, drawing a legal challenge. A circuit judge ruled the ban violated the constitutional amendment, leading former Gov. Rick Scott’s administration to appeal.

DeSantis, who took office Jan. 8, has demanded that lawmakers drop the smoking ban and has threated to end the legal appeal if they do not act.

The House also has been moving forward with a bill (HB 7015), though it includes some differences with the Senate version.

The House bill could go to the full House as soon as next week.
 
"Under the revised plan, dispensaries could sell any form of smokable marijuana, and patients could buy devices to smoke cannabis at state-licensed medical marijuana treatment centers or other retail outlets, such as head shops."

Now this is common sense.....can't believe how much yelling and screaming it took to get here.

I love seeing the FL legislature prohibitionists getting their ass handed to them on this issue....not primarily because its about MJ....but rather because these elected officials seem to be blind to the principles of democracy and needed a spanking on that score, IMO.


House, Senate near repeal of pot smoking ban

With plenty of breathing room before a March 15 deadline set by Gov. Ron DeSantis, House and Senate leaders have neared completion of a measure that would do away with a state ban on smoking medical marijuana.

Sen. Jeff Brandes and Rep. Ray Rodrigues confirmed Wednesday they’ve reached an accord on a proposal that would allow patients to purchase up to 2.5 ounces of marijuana for smoking every 35 days, ban smoking of medical marijuana in public places and allow terminally ill children to smoke the treatment, but only if they have a second opinion from a pediatrician.

After taking office in January, DeSantis gave the Legislature until March 15 to eliminate the smoking ban. If lawmakers don’t act, DeSantis has threatened to drop the state’s appeal of a court decision that found the prohibition ran afoul of a voter-approved constitutional amendment that broadly legalized medical marijuana.

Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, filed an amendment late Tuesday that’s a blueprint for the repeal of the smoking prohibition. He predicted the full Senate could amend its smoking-ban legislation (SB 182) and take a floor vote as early as Thursday.

Rodrigues, R-Estero, said Brandes’ amendment “is what we’ve agreed upon.” Both legislators said a few “glitches” remain to be worked out.

“But as far as the policy goes, yes, that reflects what the House and Senate have mutually arrived at,” Rodrigues told The News Service of Florida on Wednesday.

House Speaker José Oliva, R-Miami Lakes, had balked at doing away with the smoking ban, which was included in a 2017 law aimed at carrying out the 2016 constitutional amendment.

But after DeSantis delivered the ultimatum, the House made a series of concessions to reach a compromise with the Senate, which historically has taken a less-restrictive approach toward medical marijuana.

For example, the House version (HB 7066) would have restricted medical marijuana dispensaries to selling pre-rolled cannabis cigarettes, along with other cannabis-based products not used for smoking.

House makes concessions

Under the revised plan, dispensaries could sell any form of smokable marijuana, and patients could buy devices to smoke cannabis at state-licensed medical marijuana treatment centers or other retail outlets, such as head shops.

The Senate, meanwhile, yielded to the House by agreeing to limits on how much smokable cannabis patients could purchase at one time, as well as a cap on the total amount patients could have.

“The House’s concern is that we believe the people voted for medical marijuana. We do not believe the people voted for recreational marijuana, and if there’s no limit, then the concern is there could be an excess amount of product that’s out there. We believe that would be diverted for recreational purposes,” said Rodrigues, who has long been a House leader on medical-marijuana issues.

Rodrigues said the House would “most likely” take up the Senate measure early next week if the bill clears the Senate.

Under current law, doctors are allowed to order three, 70-day supplies of medical marijuana for their patients, effectively requiring patients to see doctors every 210 days. There are no caps on daily doses and no limits on how much doctors can order for their patients.

Senate lays out plan
The Senate plan for smoking would keep the doctor-visit timeline, but patients would be restricted to filling a single, 35-day order for smokable marijuana at a time. The maximum for a 35-day order would be 2.5 ounces of smokable marijuana, and patients would not be allowed to have any more than 4 ounces of marijuana at any time.

Marijuana for smoking would have to be packaged “in a sealed receptacle” with a warning label stating that “marijuana smoke contains carcinogens and may negatively affect health.” The packages must be “plain, opaque, and white without depictions of the product or images” other than state-approved logos for the marijuana businesses and “the marijuana universal symbol.”

Brandes said he and Rodrigues “worked really hard to reach a consensus agreement” on the measure.

Some critics have complained about requiring patients to get their marijuana orders filled every 35 days. But Brandes pointed out that Florida law allows medical-marijuana operators to deliver cannabis products to patients. That means that, if their doctors approve smokable marijuana, patients wouldn’t have to travel to a dispensary every month.

“Of course there’s going to be some on both sides that are not happy. But we spent days working on these issues,” Brandes told the News Service.

What you should know about recreational and medical pot in Oregon. Jonathan Bach, Statesman Journal

Brandes estimated that the 2.5-ounce limit per order will meet the needs of the vast majority of patients.

“But there are going to be outliers, and we’ve created exceptions for those outliers,” he said.

Brandes also said that allowing patients to purchase smoking devices from third-party retailers was a “major issue” worked out with the House.

“So I think, all in all, this is a bill that I’m perfectly happy to stand behind and have my name on. That was my goal,” he said.

Brandes said he hasn’t spoken with DeSantis about the revised bill. But the governor’s office has received “every major revision” to the medical marijuana proposals and that most of his “major issues” have been addressed, Brandes said.

“They’ve been fully informed, and we’ve tried to address their concerns as they’ve come through,” he said. “I would hope that they would let us know if there was another concern.”
 
nice article from fellow redditor on an independent domain:
https://floridamedicalcannabis.home...182-passes-florida-house-floridas-faulted-15/

The smoking ban has been lifted. However patients are not free to buy vaporizers not approved by our DOH for sale in dispos. Why is the independent vaporizing industry getting locked out of the market but not Chinese bongs and pipes? Not knocking the glass, but huh?
 
Rep. Ray Rodrigues, R-Estero “What I would say to the medical community is that it is incumbent upon them to do their jobs to treat this as medicine,”

From a fucking politician gorging at the public trough, this is too funny.

This genius also said: "law enforcement officers should have training to spot the difference between medical marijuana and black market marijuana, so that legitimate patients aren’t arrested."

Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about. I would love to see the slide deck for that training course! haha

I particularly love this one: "House Speaker Jose R. Oliva, a cigar company owner, told journalists recently, “I’ve been in the smoke business my entire life, and I’ve never heard anyone say it’s good for you.”

Please note that this....well, person....has not divested themselves of their cigar company which combines both smoking AND addictive tobacco in one product. And he objects to smoking MJ? These guys are hysterical.

I lived in FL for many, many years. IMO, FL state goverment sucked then and still sucks now.


Florida House passes repeal of medical marijuana smoking ban, sending it to Gov. Ron DeSantis

TALLAHASSEE – The Florida House repealed the state’s ban on smokable medical marijuana on Wednesday, meeting Gov. Ron DeSantis’ demand that lawmakers do so and handing the governor the first legislative victory of his 3-month-old administration.

The bill (SB 182) passed by a 101-11 vote. It passed the Senate last week 38-0.

"This is a difficult issue, and you're going to have people on both sides; some that are happy that now this is available to them and others that feel that we didn't go far enough," House Speaker Jose Oliva said after the vote. "We did the best that we could do and still remain responsible."

In addition to the smoking ban repeal, the bill allows doctors to order a 210-day supply of medical marijuana for patients, up from the current 70-day supply limit, requires doctors to submit patient data for research into the effects of smoking and requires patients under the age of 18 to have a terminal condition and get a second opinion from a pediatrician before receiving the drug.

It’s the first bill of the 2019 legislative session that will head to DeSantis’ desk.

DeSantis asked lawmakers to repeal the smokable ban at a February press conference in Winter Park, flanked by Orlando attorney John Morgan, who bankrolled the 2016 ballot measure approved by 72 percent of voters to legalize medical marijuana.

Morgan brought a lawsuit in 2017 after the Legislature passed a law that implemented the constitutional amendment but banned smoking, something Morgan said went against the intent of the amendment. A trial court agreed, but the Gov. Rick Scott administration appealed.

DeSantis said he’d drop the appeal if lawmakers didn’t act. His office did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday, but he applauded the Legislature on Twitter.

“I thank the Florida Legislature for taking action on medical marijuana and upholding the will of the voters,” DeSantis posted.

Rep. Ray Rodrigues, R-Estero, defended the 2017 law but warned the regulations put in place would be removed by the courts if they failed to pass the bill. But he also cautioned doctors licensed to order medical marijuana not to liberally hand out the drug, which is still classified as a Schedule II illegal substance under federal law.

“What I would say to the medical community is that it is incumbent upon them to do their jobs to treat this as medicine,” Rodrigues said. “The last thing we want to see is the pill mill crisis that occurred with opioids to occurring in this state with medical marijuana. So we’ll be watching.”

Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, who advocated for a repeal of the smoking ban, praised the vote in a news release.

"Today's action to finally allow smokable medical marijuana brings four words to the lips of people across our state: It's about damn time," said Fried, a Democrat. "It's long past due that the State of Florida honored the will of the people and allowed doctors to determine their patient's course of treatment."

But even after DeSantis signs the bill, the issue isn’t likely to go away.

Critics have slammed Scott for slow-walking medical marijuana and have said the current regulations make it too expensive and cumbersome for patients, pushing them to the black market.

“I’m very frustrated,” Rodrigues told reporters after the vote. “I don’t think the Scott administration made a good faith effort to implement the (2017) bill as we passed it. I think the fact that we’re not moving with alacrity is what’s created demand from the public that more be done, and I think had the bill actually been implemented more patients would have access to products sooner.”

Rodrigues added that he thinks the DeSantis administration will move quickly on the latest measure, which becomes effective when he signs the bill.

Under questions from Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith, D-Orlando, Rodrigues said the House could take up legislation later in the session to address affordability of the drug and said law enforcement officers should have training to spot the difference between medical marijuana and black market marijuana, so that legitimate patients aren’t arrested.

Medical marijuana packages are supposed to be standardized, within a “sealed plain opaque white receptacle with a legible and prominent warning to keep it away from children and a warning that states: Marijuana smoke contains carcinogens and may negatively affect health,” Rodrigues said.

He added that police officers would have real-time access to the medical marijuana registry that lists authorized patients and would treat the drug like any other prescription medication during a traffic stop.

“My hope is that with the legislation that law enforcement will train themselves,” Smith replied. “Because even the wrapped product, the wrapped whole flower product can leave a scent behind in the car which can leave a scent mistaken as smoked medical cannabis.”

Smith has filed a bill (HB 1117) to legalize recreational marijuana, but it hasn’t received a hearing this year.


Florida Lawmakers End Medical Cannabis Smoking Ban

The Florida House voted to lift the smokable cannabis ban, sending it to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is expected to sign the measure.

The Florida House voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to lift the state’s unpopular—and, detractors argued, unconstitutional—ban on smokable medical cannabis products, following the quick work of the state Senate last week.

The House’s 101-11 vote is the lawmakers’ next-to-last step in a process prompted by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, the new Republican governor who called on lawmakers in January to pass legislation reversing the state’s no-smoke ban by a March 15 deadline. DeSantis is expected to sign the bill soon.

“I thank the Florida Legislature for taking action on medical marijuana and upholding the will of the voters,” DeSantis tweeted on Wednesday afternoon.

Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, a former medical cannabis lobbyist who campaigned on the issue, cheered the news saying, “it’s about damn time.” And John Morgan, the original medical cannabis campaign’s backer who had sued the state over the no-smoke issue, said of DeSantis: “I don’t know about you all but I’m liking this guy so far!”

Florida voters legalized medical cannabis by ballot initiative in 2016. A year later, the legislature passed a bill that instituted the smoking ban and other stringent requirements that cannabis advocates argued drove prices up and made cannabis inaccessible to patients. The Department of Health under previous Republican Gov. Rick Scott was also accused by industry and patient advocates of slow-rolling the new medical cannabis law, while putting up impediments for businesses to get licensed.

DeSantis, who has worked on cannabis issues with his former Florida US House colleague Matt Gaetz as part of his transition team, is expected to be a much friendlier Republican toward cannabis, although the new governor has said he’s against legalizing for adult-use.

Despite DeSantis’s push to end the ban on smokable cannabis, it wasn’t clear at first whether House Republicans would follow his lead. House Speaker Jose R. Oliva, a cigar company owner, told journalists recently, “I’ve been in the smoke business my entire life, and I’ve never heard anyone say it’s good for you.” Also, Florida media reported that House Republicans recently invited anti-cannabis legalization author Alex Berenson to speak to them about the dangers of cannabis use.

Oliva, who supported the measure to lift the ban, SB 182, did not say anything about his vote during the House’s brief debate Wednesday.

Lead House sponsor Ray Rodrigues, a Republican from Pensacola, told the chamber that the House had little choice but to pass the bill because a court or DeSantis would have overturned the ban. Further, he said on the House floor, the legislature was able to put protections into the measure that wouldn’t otherwise exist. For example, the bill sets up a Consortium for Medical Marijuana Research to work with state universities to study the effects of medical cannabis; continues to ban public consumption; bars doctors from recommending smokable cannabis to those 18 and younger, unless they are terminally ill; and calls on the state Board of Medicine and the Board of Osteopathic Medicine to adopt “practice standards” for physicians who recommend smokable cannabis to follow by July 1, 2021, according to the text of the bill.

Rodrigues said on the House floor that he hopes the state does not create a “pill mill” scenario for cannabis, a reference to doctors over-prescribing opioid medication. “What I would say to the medical community is it is incumbent on them to do their jobs, to treat this as medicine,” Rodrigues said. “We know that our doctors are good but every industry has bad actors. My sincere hope is they police themselves.”

Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith, a Florida House Democrat from Orlando, told Cannabis Wire in an interview before the vote that the state has a lot of work to do on cannabis reform. He has introduced cannabis decriminalization and adult-use legislation, and said “anything is possible when people look at the facts” when asked if House Republicans or DeSantis will be interested in implementing further reform.

He said of the thousands of Florida residents arrested for cannabis possession every year, “Why? What is the government purpose of diverting resources for law enforcement … to be locking people up for cannabis possession?” he asked. “We have to take a comprehensive approach, and we have to pull Florida out of the dark ages.”
 
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs smokable medical marijuana bill into law

TALLAHASSEE — Patients who receive medical marijuana from their doctors will be able to smoke the substance legally, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday.

The bill (SB 182) is the first of DeSantis’ short tenure and an early legislative victory. DeSantis insisted that lawmakers repeal the state’s ban on smokable medical marijuana by last Friday, or he would drop the state’s appeal of an ongoing lawsuit over the ban.

More than 70 percent of voters approved a ballot measure in 2016 legalizing marijuana for medical use, but the Legislature passed a bill a year later that nevertheless banned it in smokable forms.

Orlando attorney John Morgan, who bankrolled the push to put the measure on the ballot, filed suit, saying the intent of the amendment allowed for smokable marijuana. A lower court agreed but Gov. Rick Scott, DeSantis’ predecessor, appealed the ruling last year.

“It means the will of the people has been heard,” Morgan wrote to the Orlando Sentinel in an email. “For the sick and injured [it means] an alternative to opioids and pharmaceutical poison. Taken all together it means hope, safe wellness and victory for the people. My job is now done.”

Morgan, who attended an Orlando news conference where DeSantis called for the repeal, added that he signed off on DeSantis’ motion dismissing the appeal of his lawsuit.

“I thank my colleagues in the Legislature for working with me to ensure the will of the voters is upheld,” DeSantis said in a released statement. “Now that we have honored our duty to find a legislative solution, I have honored my commitment and filed a joint motion to dismiss the state’s appeal.’’

The new law takes effect immediately, but it could take time for the Department of Health, the agency that oversees the state’s medical marijuana program, to approve new rules to guide doctors, meaning patients might have to wait a little longer for smokable forms.

Other parts of the law require patients under 18 to get a second opinion from a pediatrician and be diagnosed with a terminal illness before accessing smokable marijuana. There’s also $1.5 million per year set aside for the State University System Board of Governors to dole out to schools to conduct research.

Qualified patients can receive up to a 210-day supply at a time, the equivalent of six 35-day doses of a maximum 2.5 ounces.

The budding marijuana industry in Florida appears eager to get smokable products to the market.

“We stand ready to meet the needs of patients whose doctors order smokable products and are confident that the Department of Health is moving with all due haste,” said Kim Rivers, CEO of Trulieve, a medical marijuana dispensary. “Trulieve looks forward to selling safe smokeable flower to our patients.”
 
"Morgan said. “Then we won but we didn’t really win because Rick Scott ... did what he wanted to do, not what the people wanted to do.”

THIS is what should be the real issue for any democracy loving Americans....a senior elected politician decided that the electorate could go fuck itself and he would do whatever the fuck he wanted.

And now....FL sent him to the US Senate. Ain't grand...to me, this guy should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town.


Smoking medical marijuana is now legal in Florida. Here’s how it happened


TALLAHASSEE


It started in 1986 with a puff of Myakka Gold marijuana on Bradenton Beach.

Cathy Jordan was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig’s disease and given no more than five years to live. She came down to Florida from her home in Delaware with the goal to end her own life.

She wanted to see the beach and smoke some pot before she took a handful of muscle relaxers that would numb her pain once and for all.

But after a few hits on the beach that night, she suddenly felt better. She went home to Delaware and told her husband, Bob Jordan, about her experience. Little did they know, the couple had become a part of something bigger.

“I didn’t believe her,” Jordan said. “But as we got more aware of it, we found out when she has cannabis she’s better. And when she doesn’t have it, she’s sick.”

Twenty years later Cathy Jordan, who has been living with ALS, has become the face of a movement for medical marijuana. More specifically, smokable medical marijuana — a ban on which was repealed by the Florida Legislature and quietly signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday. There was no public signing of the bill, which also establishes a research consortium, allows products like bongs and rolling papers to be purchased and requires a second opinion from a board-certified pediatrician for non-terminal patients under age 18. The change in law is effective immediately.

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Cathy Jordan, a Sarasota resident with Lou Gehrig’s disease, is among those suing the state for banning smoking as a way of using medical marijuana. She testified in court Wednesday that smoking is the most effective way to treat her pain and symptoms.

But long before DeSantis took up repealing a ban on smokable pot, Bob Jordan was growing and perfecting the strains that would work best for his wife of 37 years.

It’s a daily routine that’s lasted as long as Jordan can remember.

After he gets Cathy out of bed, cleaned up and dressed in the morning, she sits at the breakfast table with a cup of coffee and two marijuana cigarettes. She sips. She smokes. She coughs.

The cough is key. It brings up the phlegm that accumulates in her lungs, a process for which some ALS patients use a special vest-like device.

“It ain’t pretty, but she coughs it up and then she says she can start her day,” Jordan said.

The cannabis also dries out her mouth, helping her maintain excess saliva instead of resorting to a towel or worse, choking.

Bob Jordan said he put “a lot of love” into cultivating his plants, which he harvests, hangs to dry and then carefully trims to make his wife’s joints.

He said the potential harm his wife faces without marijuana is “more heinous than the crime.”

“Cathy faces death,” he said. “It’s medical necessity.”

Unintended consequences
In 2013, the Cathy Jordan Medical Cannabis Bill was introduced by former Sen. Jeff Clemens, D-Lake Worth, and former Rep. Katie Edwards-Walpole, D-Plantation.

Shortly after, the Jordan’s Parrish home — they moved to Florida about 30 years ago for the better weather — was raided by deputies and detectives with the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office drug intervention unit. No arrests were made, but 23 marijuana plants Jordan uses for her treatments were confiscated by authorities.

As Manatee County Commission considers enacting a 180-day moratorium on medical marijuana dispensing facilities, Cathy and Bob Jordan, who are medical marijuana advocates, address the commission Thursday.

After the raid, Bob Jordan said that he connected with John Morgan, the prominent Orlando attorney who eventually bankrolled the constitutional amendment that led to legalizing medical marijuana in 2017.

Jordan said he’s most proud of how his efforts have given people the freedom to tap cannabis and “take them out of the shadows.”

“There’s no shame in sickness,” he said.

Morgan, whose younger brother was paralyzed as a teenage lifeguard after a diving accident, said he fights for his brother’s right to use marijuana to relieve pain and stop spasms. He said he became interested in legalizing the drug after he met the Jordans and when he saw people trying to do it in a “haphazard way.”

“The only way to do it was to pour money at it and pour money at it fast,” Morgan said.

Morgan first fought to get a medical marijuana proposal on the ballot in 2014, but it got too much pushback from anti-drug groups and too few signatures to make it. In 2016, he poured in more money to try it again, focusing on older voters and riding the high voter turnout of a presidential election.

Gov. Scott’s opposition
In total, he says he’s spent $15 million on the cause.

“I thought of Cathy Jordan, I thought of Tim Morgan and I thought of hundreds of thousands like them. That’s what motivated me to try the second time,” Morgan said. “Then we won but we didn’t really win because Rick Scott ... did what he wanted to do, not what the people wanted to do.”

In 2016, about 71 percent of Floridians who voted were in favor of a constitutional amendment to legalize medical marijuana. While the 2017 bill signed into law by Gov. Rick Scott legalized access to the drug in pill, oil, edible and vape form, it made smoking it illegal.

The provision, commonly referred to as the “smoking ban,” was challenged in circuit court in July 2017. In his complaint, Morgan, who represented patients and two advocacy organizations, argued the smoking ban altered the definition of “marijuana” and by banning smoking in public, implicitly authorized smoking marijuana in a private place. He asked the court to invalidate the law passed by the Florida Legislature because it violated the intent of the constitutional amendment passed by voters in 2016.

Other similar cases were heard and ruled favorably by a circuit court judge — cases Scott appealed before he left office.

“It’s a generational thing,” Morgan said. “Rick Scott is an old, bald-headed dinosaur. The Rick Scott generation has a fear of marijuana. They don’t know the difference between marijuana and LSD and fentanyl.”

In June 2018 an appellate court refused to lift a stay on a Tallahassee judge’s ruling that would allow patients to smoke medical marijuana if their doctors approve it, making smokable medical pot a talking point among those running for office.

As the campaign season progressed, the smoking issue cropped up across social media. Then-candidate for agriculture commissioner Nikki Fried said smoking medical marijuana was the “will of the people” in a video she posted to Twitter on Sept. 13. In the video, Fried calls out Scott for fighting the appeal for smokable marijuana and implored DeSantis and Fried’s opponent, former Rep. Matt Caldwell, to respond.

The hashtag “#NoSmokeIsAJoke, coined by Morgan, followed suit and continues to pepper Florida politics on Twitter.

New money, new leadership
And while conversations surrounding marijuana continued to build, so did the money. Since the summer of 2016, when a campaign to bring medical marijuana to Florida ramped up, Florida’s licensed cannabis corporations and their executives have given at least $2.5 million in political contributions to state lawmakers and political parties.

The new governor wasn’t blind to the donations he received or the interest from influencers like Morgan, and he had the likes of U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz and state Sen. Jeff Brandes in his ear. At a Jan. 17 press conference DeSantis held in Orlando, he declared that if lawmakers didn’t pass bills by March 15 allowing patients to smoke marijuana, he’d drop the state’s appeals of at least eight lawsuits — including one filed by Morgan.

“What the Florida Legislature has done to implement the people’s will has not been done in accordance with what the amendment envisioned,” DeSantis said at the time. “Whether they [patients] have to smoke it or not, who am I to judge that?”

The Legislature swiftly took action to carry out the governor’s orders.

The Senate was the first to get a bill passed out of the chamber, with the leadership of Brandes.

In his closing statement on the Senate floor, Brandes said Jordan represents those who need to smoke marijuana to live.

“In her quiet voice, she would advocate for smokable medical cannabis,” Brandes said. “As Floridians, even those who barely have a voice in this process can be heard, recognized and respected. This legislation honors that in a way that is responsible.”

The House, which overwhelmingly approved the bill March 13, treated the legislation as more of an obligation to DeSantis than a priority of the chamber.

Rep. Ray Rodrigues, who sponsored the 2017 bill banning smoking, sponsored the 2019 House bill to repeal the ban. The Estero Republican said without the bill to guide smoking marijuana, a federal judge’s ruling striking down the state’s smoking ban would leave Florida with “the law of the wild west.”

House Speaker José Oliva had openly criticized smoking medicinal marijuana as an option, saying efforts to legalize it are just “some cover” for getting access to recreational marijuana.

“I’ve been in the smoke business my entire life, and I’ve never heard anyone say it’s good for you,” the Miami Lakes Republican and cigar company CEO said a press conference before the legislative session started.

After the House vote, Oliva told reporters that he still has reservations.

“This is a difficult issue. ... This is the best that we could do and still remain responsible,” he said. “I would certainly have been interested to hear what would have come of that appeal. We might still. But I think that the most important thing was that the elected lawmakers of the state have an opportunity to legislate how this will be governed in our state.”

After the House passed the Senate bill, both DeSantis, the new governor, and Fried, the marijuana lobbyist turned agriculture commissioner, cheered.

“The Florida Legislature has taken a significant step this week to uphold the will of the voters and support the patients who will gain relief as a result of this legislation,” DeSantis wrote in a statement.

“It’s about damn time,” Fried echoed.

“Today is a landmark victory for patients across Florida and for our democracy,” she said in a statement. “It’s a triumph owed to the relentless advocacy of Floridians who refused to be silenced. Our state must not disregard the voice of its people – when the people’s will is nullified by those with authority, liberty cannot survive.”


Jordan says he considers the bill signing to be a victory of sorts.

“A disabled Vietnam veteran and a woman with ALS took on the state of Florida and we won,” Jordan said. “It brought us to where we are today. If that lawsuit was not in place right now, they would not have passed this.”
 
UPDATE on the lift of the smoking ban...not really a lift...compromises were made at the legislative and DOH levels, one requiring an in-person doctor visit and NANNY paperwork that won't be available until second week of April, so doctors get to re-charge patients who were just certified or re-certified. Trulieve and Docmj have been accused of colluding to get all Trulieve's Sunshine Cannabis staff approved early for smoke-able flower so they could begin carpet bombing the internet with positive reviews. More drama now than before the "lift." Here's just one example: https://www.reddit.com/r/FLMedicalT...ne_elses_doctor_charging_the_renewal_7_month/

The worst part of all tihis is how EASY the state makes all the concentrate forms to buy, but can I buy basic flower for the dry herb vape of my choice? No. But if I pays my moneys to the doctor again I can buy basic flower to SMOKE with any paraphernalia I can get anywhere.

“Marijuana delivery device” means an object used, 97 intended for use, or designed for use in preparing, storing, 98 ingesting, inhaling, or otherwise introducing marijuana into the 99 human body, and which is dispensed from a medical marijuana 100 treatment center for medical use by a qualified patient, except 101 that delivery devices intended for the medical use of marijuana 102 by smoking need not be dispensed from a medical marijuana 103 treatment center in order to qualify as marijuana delivery 104 devices.

http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/182/BillText/er/PDF
 
Check this out... Wtf.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives...5ikJGPtcLdzR8rbQz3DBHOGPTKI8DKve65rWuAXXDCXS8

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Florida patients can now smoke medical marijuana, but some Republican legislative leaders want to put a limit on how high they can get when lighting up.

The House is considering a proposal that would cap THC levels in medical marijuana at 10 percent, Rep. Ray Rodrigues, an Estero Republican, said in an interview with The News Service of Florida.

No bill has been filed, and Rodrigues, who’s shepherded medical-marijuana legislation in the House since low-THC cannabis was first authorized in 2014, said legislation is still “up in the air.”

“But it’s something we still think is important,” Rodrigues said.

Also, it hasn’t been determined yet whether the cap would only apply to smokable cannabis or other medical marijuana products as well.

Tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, is the intoxicating ingredient in marijuana that produces a euphoric effect.

“We think there should be caps on THC,” Rodrigues said this week.

Senate President Bill Galvano, a Bradenton Republican, said in a text message Thursday that the Senate would support imposing caps on THC levels, but “would have to understand more before making a determination” about what the caps would be and whether they should apply only to smokable cannabis.

The House and Senate this month succumbed to Gov. Ron DeSantis and agreed to repeal the state’s ban on smokable medical marijuana. DeSantis had threatened to drop the state’s appeal of a court decision that found the smoking ban violated a 2016 constitutional amendment that broadly legalized medical marijuana.

Proponents of medical marijuana in Florida say that potential THC caps are another example of the Republican-dominated Legislature attempting to thwart the will of the voters, who overwhelmingly supported the constitutional amendment.

“It’s absolutely insane that after finally relenting on their jihad against sick people smoking marijuana that the House would deem it appropriate to wage another unconstitutional war against the will of the 71 percent of Floridians who approved medical marijuana. These proposed caps are arbitrary, unnecessary and will hurt Florida patients if enacted,” Ben Pollara, the campaign manager of the political committee behind the amendment, said in a text message.

Rodrigues said the House had been exploring THC limits but, in the rush to meet DeSantis’ March 15 deadline for the smoking-ban repeal, it didn’t have time to fully vet the issue and was unable to include such a provision in the measure the governor signed into law last week.

“There is clear evidence that shows that THC that is less than 10 percent is medically helpful. THC that’s greater than 10 percent is not medically helpful and in fact can be harmful,” Rodrigues said, pointing to a recent study published in The Lancet Psychiatry medical journal.

The study found that people who use pot daily were three times more likely to have a psychotic episode than someone who never used marijuana. The study also found that use of high-potency cannabis — defined as 10 percent THC or more — nearly doubled the risk of psychosis, compared to individuals who never smoked pot. People who used high-potency marijuana daily were five times more likely to develop psychosis, the study found.

Marijuana advocates have criticized the study, which involved about 900 people in five European countries.

“If that were the only study, the pushback might have some weight with us, but it’s not. There have been studies previous to that. This was just the largest one to come back and confirm what the smaller, previous studies had shown,” said Rodrigues, chairman of the House Health & Human Services Committee.

THC levels in whole flower medical cannabis generally range from 20 to 25 percent, while other products — such as shatter, tinctures or oils — can have up to 80 percent THC.

But THC levels alone aren’t what make a difference for patients, said Barry Gordon, chief physician for Compassionate Cannabis Clinic in Venice.

THC is one of the cannabinoids in marijuana that, working together, create what is known as the “entourage effect.”

“This attempt to focus on the concentration of the THC in the raw flower form is once again a lack of understanding that the legislators have because they haven’t reached out to enough clinicians who are doing this every day to understand some of those subtleties,” Gordon said in a telephone interview. “It’s not about the THC percentage. In the medical world, that’s going to be a horrible, horrible slippery slope.”

If lawmakers take up another medical marijuana measure before the Legislative Session ends May 3, the proposal could be sweetened by giving veterans free or discounted state-issued ID cards required to purchase the cannabis treatment. The cards now cost $75 a year, in addition to the hundreds of dollars per year for doctor visits and the cost of the treatment itself, none of which is covered by insurance.

Thc capped at 10%?!?! Seems insane and will not fly
 

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