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THIS virus could become the one that is more virulent!
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THIS virus could become the one that is more virulent!
Perhaps the issue is that language changes with time and those changes generally have more to do with fashion than logic.
Believe it or not, @Disrupt's human alter ego writes professionally for mainly liberal readers. For many years, he was a grammarian, insisting that his decades-old understanding of grammar was the one-and-only correct way to express himself. When gender sensitivity rose, to express the singular person, he used "he" or "she," or "he/she," loathe to incorrectly use the plural "they." That is, until a better writer showed him that even Shakespeare (the best writer of all) sometimes used "they" for the singular.
Other examples come from actual racism. What's the grammatical difference between "people of color" and "colored people?" None; if anything, "colored people" should be preferred because it's simpler, using fewer words to express the same idea. Does it matter? Not at all; "people of color" is unquestionably correct, and no one who talks to anyone other than racists would argue the point. The same is true of "black" and "negro," as poor Roger Stone recently learned.
Of course, in these cases, we defer to the actual people to whom we're referring. The virus couldn't care less what its hosts call it.
Please keep calling out our liberal biases, @Baron23. Yours is an especially valuable perspective.
CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
Words and prejudice evolve over time, hopefully for the good. My mom lived during the 1920s and 30s, she always referred to black people as negros. I had to remind her for years, “ mom we use the term black”. The “negro”word for blacks is degrading, please don’t use that word. We would be at the doctor’s office and she would embarrass the hell out of me. She didn’t realize how loud she was speaking because she was hard of hearing.
We learn from our mistakes in history. Using the word “Chinese” virus is degrading during this time in history. It is offensive to those people of Chinese descent. This virus belongs to the whole world now. It’s out of control with a no ending feeling.
We learn from our mistakes in history. Using the word “Chinese” virus is degrading during this time in history. It is offensive to those people of Chinese descent. This virus belongs to the whole world now. It’s out of control with a no ending feeling.
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deep_meditation
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Could be. Anything could be. Microchipped antipsychotics were approved years ago. Maybe they're starting with the mentally ill first. However, I'd be more worried about phones, tablets, computers, smart speakers and all of those cool gadgets you can order off of the chinese trinket sites than I would a 5mg chipped anti-psychotic pill or vaccine.
bulllee
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Claims of an ASU professor dying from COVID-19 were untrue. Who was behind the hoax?
Rachel Leingang, Arizona Republic 16 hrs ago
It appeared, at first, to be a tragedy.
Posts on Twitter on Saturday proclaimed a person who taught at Arizona State University died of COVID-19, the latest victim in the pandemic that's churning through the United States and inspiring heated debate over the return to college campuses in the coming weeks.
People in science and academia called on ASU to acknowledge the death and questioned what the cost of human life was in the scheme of reopening campuses.
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Now, none of it seems to be true, or at least not verifiable. Instead, the purported death appears to be a bizarre hoax whose motivation is unclear.
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Faculty across the country, including at ASU, have real concerns about reopening campuses. People experience lengthy COVID-19 symptoms and long recoveries. Thousands of Arizonans have died from the disease. The pandemic has had a disproportionate impact on people of color in Arizona, particularly Latinos and Indigenous people.
The Twitter account for the person who was said to have died touched on all of that, but it appears no one has actually died, or at least not an ASU professor.
ASU spokesperson Katie Paquet said on Sunday that the university believes it was a hoax. The university couldn't find any connection in real life between the account and ASU, she said. Deans and faculty members couldn't identify who the person might be.
"We also have had no one, such as a family member or friend, report a death to anyone at the university," Paquet said.
Accounts associated with the claims were subsequently suspended by Twitter. Academics who thought they had years-long friendships with the person who purportedly died now say they had never met them and feel duped.
Dr. Jacquelyn Gill, a professor at the University of Maine who had shared the claims of the alleged death and pointed to ASU's endowment with the question "How much is a life worth?" later deleted her comment and said she was now convinced the account was fake.
"I’m so sorry to those of you whose trust was violated. Creating a fake pseudonymous account and pretending various marginalized identities is wrong. It’s evil," Gill wrote.
What actually happened? Here's what is known
It started on Saturday.
BethAnn McLaughlin, a former professor at Vanderbilt University with a controversial track record from her time leading a group called MeTooSTEM, announced that a friend of hers, an unnamed person whose Twitter account has the handle @Sciencing_Bi, had died of COVID-19.
@Sciencing_Bi's Twitter posts, which have since been suspended, gave some insight into who she said she was. The account claimed to be of an anthropologist and professor and mentioned ASU in posts. The account also claimed to be from an Indigenous person. McLaughlin mentioned @Sciencing_Bi was Hopi multiple times.
The account had said they were not named because of a fear of retaliation because they were bisexual and because they did not have tenure.
In mid-April, @Sciencing_Bi posted that they had tested positive for COVID-19. Other posts to the account talked about teaching large in-person classes in April. In May, the account mentioned a pay cut for faculty.
Also in May, the account posted an article about ASU President Michael Crow showing interest in legal immunity for colleges that reopen, saying that ASU kept "teachers, staff and students on campus until April."
There are verifiable problems with the facts in these particular posts. ASU had moved classes online, aside from a few small classes, in mid-March. And ASU has not cut pay or furloughed faculty, though other Arizona universities have announced plans to do so.
Some have speculated that perhaps this occurred with someone at the University of Arizona. But there does not appear to be a recent death of a faculty member there that fits the descriptions shared on Twitter, either.
Matthew Sakiestewa Gilbert, the head of the University of Arizona's Department of American Indian Studies, is an enrolled member of the Hopi tribe.
"There are very few Hopi faculty in the academy. We tend to know each other," he said via email. "I have not heard of any Hopi faculty at ASU dying from COVID-19. From what I can tell, the claims that are attributed to @Sciencing_Bi are a hoax, and a sick one at that."
In Twitter posts on Saturday, McLaughlin detailed the kind of person she said @Sciencing_Bi was. She gave good hugs, she fought against systemic issues in science, she advocated for her students. She had sent "Hopi bandanas" to a few people, and was checking up on whether they got the gifts while she was in the hospital, McLaughlin wrote.
In one post, McLaughlin said she was "looking at her side of the bed and crying."
It certainly seemed like McLaughlin and @Sciencing_Bi had met in person more than once.
They interacted with some frequency on Twitter, posts show, now captured in screenshots posted by people trying to unravel the mystery.
But soon after McLaughlin announced @Sciencing_Bi's death, @Sciencing_Bi's account went private.
In an email to a reporter the next day, McLaughlin's familiarity with someone she deeply mourned would dissipate.
Who is BethAnn McLaughlin?
McLaughlin, a neuroscientist, leads a nonprofit called MeTooSTEM, a group whose work intends to root out harassment in the sciences.
She is known in science and academic circles for her work on harassment. She is credited for getting RateMyProfessors.com to remove a rating for "hotness," represented by a red chili pepper, from its website.
She came under fire last year for allegations of mistreating people who worked with the group and for a lack of transparency. Several members of the organization resigned.
Women of color who were involved in the organization said they felt white people were frequently prioritized over people of color's voices, according to Buzzfeed News.
McLaughlin left Vanderbilt last July after she was denied tenure following a years-long tenure review process, according to Science.
@Sciencing_Bi appears to have tried to help McLaughlin get tenure, screenshots from one Twitter user who interacted with the account show.
Story starts to unravel
On Twitter, actual ASU professors started questioning the timeline and details of one of their supposed colleagues, finding they didn't match up with reality.
By Sunday, some academics walked back their initial claims of the death of a colleague and their calls for a university response. They themselves had been misled by this account, some said.
Gill, the Maine scientist, said she felt angry at the deception. She also said she couldn't deal with the "armchair detectives and rubbernecking" as well and didn't want to see it, though she understood it.
"I'm angry about the harm done to Black, indigenous, and other people of color, and LGBTQ+ folks in our community whose trust was violated. I'm angry that someone would pretend to have a disease that has killed so many, and which *disproportionately affects BIPOC.*"
Josh Fessel, a scientist and medical doctor who had interacted with @Sciencing_Bi on Twitter and posted remembrances following the alleged death, said he had not met them in person.
"After the last couple of days, I don’t know who or what to believe. I believe I’ve been profoundly deceived for a long time, along with a lot of other people," he posted on Twitter.
In an email to The Arizona Republic on Sunday, McLaughlin distanced herself from @Sciencing_Bi, and implied that she did not know them in person, despite her previous posts.
"To the extent that I have people engage with me on Twitter using accounts not associated with their names, I try to do that in good faith assuming they are authentic," McLaughlin wrote.
However, she told the Daily Beast, in a story published on Monday, that she "knew this person."
Meanwhile, people on Twitter began sifting through @Sciencing_Bi and McLaughlin's old social media posts. Some pointed to images @Sciencing_Bi had posted about activities she said she was doing: eating tacos, arriving in Nashville where Vanderbilt is located, rock climbing.
The photos she posted of these activities seemed to be stock photos.
McLaughlin did not respond to follow-up emails asking whether she actually had met @Sciencing_Bi in person, or if she herself was behind the account.
Twitter suspends accounts
On Sunday, after sending the email to The Republic that distanced herself from @Sceincing_Bi, McLaughlin posted a confusing series of tweets.
She said she was filled with grief. She noted that her personal information was maliciously shared to the public in the past, a practice known as "doxxing," and she was being sued because of a blog post where she discussed a Title IX case.
"I'm in a position of privilege to be able to use my real voice on a real account. I know that. I will not doxx anyone. Not the people I like and not the people I struggle to understand," she wrote.
Twitter has since suspended both @Sciencing_Bi and McLaughlin's accounts.
MeTooSTEM's account is "temporarily restricted" because of unusual activity, the account now shows on Twitter.
The suspensions were implemented for "violating our spam and platform manipulation policies," Jessyka Faison, a communications manager at Twitter, said via email.
She pointed to a company policy, which reads, "We define platform manipulation as using Twitter to engage in bulk, aggressive, or deceptive activity that misleads others and/or disrupts their experience."
These activities could include spam, "inauthentic engagements" like efforts to make content appear more popular than it is, and "coordinated activity," like attempts to influence through the use of multiple or fake accounts.
Reach reporter Rachel Leingang by email at rachel.leingang@gannett.com or by phone at 602-444-8157, or find her on Twitter and Facebook.
Support local journalism. Subscribe to azcentral.com today.
This article originally appeared on Arizona Republic: Claims of an ASU professor dying from COVID-19 were untrue. Who was behind the hoax?
Rachel Leingang, Arizona Republic 16 hrs ago
It appeared, at first, to be a tragedy.
Posts on Twitter on Saturday proclaimed a person who taught at Arizona State University died of COVID-19, the latest victim in the pandemic that's churning through the United States and inspiring heated debate over the return to college campuses in the coming weeks.
People in science and academia called on ASU to acknowledge the death and questioned what the cost of human life was in the scheme of reopening campuses.
Start the day smarter. Get all the news you need in your inbox each morning.
Now, none of it seems to be true, or at least not verifiable. Instead, the purported death appears to be a bizarre hoax whose motivation is unclear.
For more stories that matter, subscribe to azcentral.com.
Faculty across the country, including at ASU, have real concerns about reopening campuses. People experience lengthy COVID-19 symptoms and long recoveries. Thousands of Arizonans have died from the disease. The pandemic has had a disproportionate impact on people of color in Arizona, particularly Latinos and Indigenous people.
The Twitter account for the person who was said to have died touched on all of that, but it appears no one has actually died, or at least not an ASU professor.
ASU spokesperson Katie Paquet said on Sunday that the university believes it was a hoax. The university couldn't find any connection in real life between the account and ASU, she said. Deans and faculty members couldn't identify who the person might be.
"We also have had no one, such as a family member or friend, report a death to anyone at the university," Paquet said.
Accounts associated with the claims were subsequently suspended by Twitter. Academics who thought they had years-long friendships with the person who purportedly died now say they had never met them and feel duped.
Dr. Jacquelyn Gill, a professor at the University of Maine who had shared the claims of the alleged death and pointed to ASU's endowment with the question "How much is a life worth?" later deleted her comment and said she was now convinced the account was fake.
"I’m so sorry to those of you whose trust was violated. Creating a fake pseudonymous account and pretending various marginalized identities is wrong. It’s evil," Gill wrote.
What actually happened? Here's what is known
It started on Saturday.
BethAnn McLaughlin, a former professor at Vanderbilt University with a controversial track record from her time leading a group called MeTooSTEM, announced that a friend of hers, an unnamed person whose Twitter account has the handle @Sciencing_Bi, had died of COVID-19.
@Sciencing_Bi's Twitter posts, which have since been suspended, gave some insight into who she said she was. The account claimed to be of an anthropologist and professor and mentioned ASU in posts. The account also claimed to be from an Indigenous person. McLaughlin mentioned @Sciencing_Bi was Hopi multiple times.
The account had said they were not named because of a fear of retaliation because they were bisexual and because they did not have tenure.
In mid-April, @Sciencing_Bi posted that they had tested positive for COVID-19. Other posts to the account talked about teaching large in-person classes in April. In May, the account mentioned a pay cut for faculty.
Also in May, the account posted an article about ASU President Michael Crow showing interest in legal immunity for colleges that reopen, saying that ASU kept "teachers, staff and students on campus until April."
There are verifiable problems with the facts in these particular posts. ASU had moved classes online, aside from a few small classes, in mid-March. And ASU has not cut pay or furloughed faculty, though other Arizona universities have announced plans to do so.
Some have speculated that perhaps this occurred with someone at the University of Arizona. But there does not appear to be a recent death of a faculty member there that fits the descriptions shared on Twitter, either.
Matthew Sakiestewa Gilbert, the head of the University of Arizona's Department of American Indian Studies, is an enrolled member of the Hopi tribe.
"There are very few Hopi faculty in the academy. We tend to know each other," he said via email. "I have not heard of any Hopi faculty at ASU dying from COVID-19. From what I can tell, the claims that are attributed to @Sciencing_Bi are a hoax, and a sick one at that."
In Twitter posts on Saturday, McLaughlin detailed the kind of person she said @Sciencing_Bi was. She gave good hugs, she fought against systemic issues in science, she advocated for her students. She had sent "Hopi bandanas" to a few people, and was checking up on whether they got the gifts while she was in the hospital, McLaughlin wrote.
In one post, McLaughlin said she was "looking at her side of the bed and crying."
It certainly seemed like McLaughlin and @Sciencing_Bi had met in person more than once.
They interacted with some frequency on Twitter, posts show, now captured in screenshots posted by people trying to unravel the mystery.
But soon after McLaughlin announced @Sciencing_Bi's death, @Sciencing_Bi's account went private.
In an email to a reporter the next day, McLaughlin's familiarity with someone she deeply mourned would dissipate.
Who is BethAnn McLaughlin?
McLaughlin, a neuroscientist, leads a nonprofit called MeTooSTEM, a group whose work intends to root out harassment in the sciences.
She is known in science and academic circles for her work on harassment. She is credited for getting RateMyProfessors.com to remove a rating for "hotness," represented by a red chili pepper, from its website.
She came under fire last year for allegations of mistreating people who worked with the group and for a lack of transparency. Several members of the organization resigned.
Women of color who were involved in the organization said they felt white people were frequently prioritized over people of color's voices, according to Buzzfeed News.
McLaughlin left Vanderbilt last July after she was denied tenure following a years-long tenure review process, according to Science.
@Sciencing_Bi appears to have tried to help McLaughlin get tenure, screenshots from one Twitter user who interacted with the account show.
Story starts to unravel
On Twitter, actual ASU professors started questioning the timeline and details of one of their supposed colleagues, finding they didn't match up with reality.
By Sunday, some academics walked back their initial claims of the death of a colleague and their calls for a university response. They themselves had been misled by this account, some said.
Gill, the Maine scientist, said she felt angry at the deception. She also said she couldn't deal with the "armchair detectives and rubbernecking" as well and didn't want to see it, though she understood it.
"I'm angry about the harm done to Black, indigenous, and other people of color, and LGBTQ+ folks in our community whose trust was violated. I'm angry that someone would pretend to have a disease that has killed so many, and which *disproportionately affects BIPOC.*"
Josh Fessel, a scientist and medical doctor who had interacted with @Sciencing_Bi on Twitter and posted remembrances following the alleged death, said he had not met them in person.
"After the last couple of days, I don’t know who or what to believe. I believe I’ve been profoundly deceived for a long time, along with a lot of other people," he posted on Twitter.
In an email to The Arizona Republic on Sunday, McLaughlin distanced herself from @Sciencing_Bi, and implied that she did not know them in person, despite her previous posts.
"To the extent that I have people engage with me on Twitter using accounts not associated with their names, I try to do that in good faith assuming they are authentic," McLaughlin wrote.
However, she told the Daily Beast, in a story published on Monday, that she "knew this person."
Meanwhile, people on Twitter began sifting through @Sciencing_Bi and McLaughlin's old social media posts. Some pointed to images @Sciencing_Bi had posted about activities she said she was doing: eating tacos, arriving in Nashville where Vanderbilt is located, rock climbing.
The photos she posted of these activities seemed to be stock photos.
McLaughlin did not respond to follow-up emails asking whether she actually had met @Sciencing_Bi in person, or if she herself was behind the account.
Twitter suspends accounts
On Sunday, after sending the email to The Republic that distanced herself from @Sceincing_Bi, McLaughlin posted a confusing series of tweets.
She said she was filled with grief. She noted that her personal information was maliciously shared to the public in the past, a practice known as "doxxing," and she was being sued because of a blog post where she discussed a Title IX case.
"I'm in a position of privilege to be able to use my real voice on a real account. I know that. I will not doxx anyone. Not the people I like and not the people I struggle to understand," she wrote.
Twitter has since suspended both @Sciencing_Bi and McLaughlin's accounts.
MeTooSTEM's account is "temporarily restricted" because of unusual activity, the account now shows on Twitter.
The suspensions were implemented for "violating our spam and platform manipulation policies," Jessyka Faison, a communications manager at Twitter, said via email.
She pointed to a company policy, which reads, "We define platform manipulation as using Twitter to engage in bulk, aggressive, or deceptive activity that misleads others and/or disrupts their experience."
These activities could include spam, "inauthentic engagements" like efforts to make content appear more popular than it is, and "coordinated activity," like attempts to influence through the use of multiple or fake accounts.
Reach reporter Rachel Leingang by email at rachel.leingang@gannett.com or by phone at 602-444-8157, or find her on Twitter and Facebook.
Support local journalism. Subscribe to azcentral.com today.
This article originally appeared on Arizona Republic: Claims of an ASU professor dying from COVID-19 were untrue. Who was behind the hoax?
Marlon Rando
Well-Known Member
@deep_meditation the irony being
The worldwide leader in most infected operating systems (BG) wants to tell you what's good for your body and its operating system.. Can't make that shit up.
The worldwide leader in most infected operating systems (BG) wants to tell you what's good for your body and its operating system.. Can't make that shit up.
Stevenski
Enter the Dragon
So the state of Victoria here is going into stage 4 again, fair enough, but are also bringing in a night-time (8 pm to 5 am!) curfew for metropolitan Melbourne...WTF, that sounds way OTT, I can't see why a curfew is needed.
The curfew is needed because people have shown they are fuckheads with no regard for others. Doesn't help it is a pretty dense city of 5 million. Things can spiral out of control quite easily. All I know is I am glad I left Melbourne. Very glad.
Edit: Not that I disagree a curfew is extreme to say the least. The big issue is keeping case loads manageable. What concerns me is regional outbreaks. The system is not equipped for that.
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Bcbud
Cannabis enthusiast
Interesting it is what it is
www.ctvnews.ca
COVID-19 in the U.S.: How do Canada's provinces rank against American states?
Looking at confirmed coronavirus cases per million people, how do the U.S. states compare to Canada's provinces and territories?
Marlon Rando
Well-Known Member
So many families already struggling to pay mortgage or rent right now.
www.axios.com
Pandemic threatens wave of homelessness as 23 million Americans face eviction
Over 26.5% of U.S. adults questioned whether they could make last month's rent or mortgage payment.
www.axios.com
Bcbud
Cannabis enthusiast
'Paranoid about the pandemic': How COVID-19 brought the 'largest criminology experiment in history'
Isolation orders, border closures, social distancing and mandated lockdowns will test theories like never before of why crime really happens and how it can be reduc…
CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
Our state is using science and data from other countries. I live in Washington state.
Recommendations for schools and in- person learning during the pandemic.
All parties should remain aware that if a school’s opening to or continued operation of in-person learning poses an imminent public health threat to the community in the estimation of the local health officer, then that local health officer has the legal power and duty to direct or order an interruption of public schools
In developing this guidance, DOH reviewed the experiences of other countries.
This week, Gov. Jay Inslee issued additional health and safety guidelines and metrics for decision-making about how schools should operate given the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
In general, the criteria define low-, moderate-, and high-risk scenarios based on the number of new cases over the previous two-week period:
Date of Reopening
Daily Cases (7-day average)
Daily Cases Per Million Population
Test Positive Rate (%) (7-day average)
Estimated Cases Per 100,000 Population Per 14 days
. Students have the YMCA childcare and Boys and Girls Club for those that have jobs or first responders. Schools in my district are using funds from the feds - the Cares Act to pay for childcare. When they do go back it will be a hybrid for a while. NY did it right. It’s going to be crazy school daze until this covid gets stomped down.
Link above - there’s a graph in the highlighted area above for other countries how low their rates were when they opened their schools. It’s very interesting and I wonder why aren’t we there! Oh ya, it’s because masks and social distancing were thought crazy.
Recommendations for schools and in- person learning during the pandemic.
All parties should remain aware that if a school’s opening to or continued operation of in-person learning poses an imminent public health threat to the community in the estimation of the local health officer, then that local health officer has the legal power and duty to direct or order an interruption of public schools
In developing this guidance, DOH reviewed the experiences of other countries.
This week, Gov. Jay Inslee issued additional health and safety guidelines and metrics for decision-making about how schools should operate given the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
In general, the criteria define low-, moderate-, and high-risk scenarios based on the number of new cases over the previous two-week period:
- Low-risk areas (under 25 cases per 100,000 in the last two weeks) could consider opening for in-person instruction for elementary students and hybrid learning for middle and high school students if the district can meet the other safety requirements of the state Department of Health and Labor and Industries.
- Moderate-risk areas (25-75 cases per 100,000) should consider a remote learning model and expand to hybrid in-person and distance learning beginning with elementary students, subject to meeting DOH and L&I requirements.
- High-risk areas (over 75 cases per 100,000) should operate with a remote distance learning model.
Date of Reopening
Daily Cases (7-day average)
Daily Cases Per Million Population
Test Positive Rate (%) (7-day average)
Estimated Cases Per 100,000 Population Per 14 days
. Students have the YMCA childcare and Boys and Girls Club for those that have jobs or first responders. Schools in my district are using funds from the feds - the Cares Act to pay for childcare. When they do go back it will be a hybrid for a while. NY did it right. It’s going to be crazy school daze until this covid gets stomped down.
Link above - there’s a graph in the highlighted area above for other countries how low their rates were when they opened their schools. It’s very interesting and I wonder why aren’t we there! Oh ya, it’s because masks and social distancing were thought crazy.
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felvapes
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The non believers and conspiracy guys are already doing this here
This is why it's spreading through pubs, clubs and home parties
But we are the so called intelligent race as hoomans ay
(Only one race scientifically for all the talk that goes round by those that like to discuss such - multiple ethnicities - one human RACE)
Marlon Rando
Well-Known Member
Video shows partiers take over MTA bus while smoking, dancing in Queens
An investigation is underway after an MTA bus was taken over in Queens early Sunday morning by dozens of people for a pop-up party.
CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
Florida
'Archbishop' of Florida church selling bleach 'miracle cure' arrested with son
Mark Grenon and his son, Joseph Grenon, arrested in Colombia and expected to be extradited to the US for selling solution mentioned at briefing
Ed Pilkington in New York
@edpilkington
Wed 12 Aug 2020 12.44 EDTLast modified on Wed 12 Aug 2020 13.28 EDT
Chlorine dioxide, a powerful bleach used in textile manufacturing, which the Grenons marketed as a ‘miracle mineral solution’. Photograph: Juan Karita/AP
The self-styled “archbishop” of a purported church in Florida that sells industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for Covid-19 has been arrested with his son in Colombia and faces extradition to the US.
Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus 'cure'
Read more
Video footage posted to the Twitter feed of Colombia’s top prosecutor showed Mark Grenon and his son Joseph Grenon, dressed in blue jump suits and masks, being led away by armed police. The prosecutor’s office said the pair had been taken into custody on suspicion of selling a “miracle solution” that had caused the deaths of seven American citizens.
The Grenons’ apprehension comes a month after the “archbishop” of the Genesis II “church”, as well as three of his sons, were charged by federal authorities in Florida with dealing in a substance that has not been approved for medical use and could be life-threatening.
The substance, chlorine dioxide, is a powerful bleach used in textile manufacturing. The Grenons market it as “miracle mineral solution” or MMS which they say when drunk as a dilution can cure almost all illnesses including Covid, cancer, HIV/Aids as well as the condition autism.
Misinformation when assholes
that are evil prey upon folks that are desperate and uneducated.
'Archbishop' of Florida church selling bleach 'miracle cure' arrested with son
Mark Grenon and his son, Joseph Grenon, arrested in Colombia and expected to be extradited to the US for selling solution mentioned at briefing
Ed Pilkington in New York
@edpilkington
Wed 12 Aug 2020 12.44 EDTLast modified on Wed 12 Aug 2020 13.28 EDT
Chlorine dioxide, a powerful bleach used in textile manufacturing, which the Grenons marketed as a ‘miracle mineral solution’. Photograph: Juan Karita/AP
The self-styled “archbishop” of a purported church in Florida that sells industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for Covid-19 has been arrested with his son in Colombia and faces extradition to the US.
Revealed: leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus 'cure'
Read more
Video footage posted to the Twitter feed of Colombia’s top prosecutor showed Mark Grenon and his son Joseph Grenon, dressed in blue jump suits and masks, being led away by armed police. The prosecutor’s office said the pair had been taken into custody on suspicion of selling a “miracle solution” that had caused the deaths of seven American citizens.
The Grenons’ apprehension comes a month after the “archbishop” of the Genesis II “church”, as well as three of his sons, were charged by federal authorities in Florida with dealing in a substance that has not been approved for medical use and could be life-threatening.
The substance, chlorine dioxide, is a powerful bleach used in textile manufacturing. The Grenons market it as “miracle mineral solution” or MMS which they say when drunk as a dilution can cure almost all illnesses including Covid, cancer, HIV/Aids as well as the condition autism.
Misinformation when assholes
that are evil prey upon folks that are desperate and uneducated.
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Marlon Rando
Well-Known Member
Rushing reopening could have devastating consequences
www.cnn.com
Rushing reopening could have devastating consequences, Dr. Fauci says
The United States needs to get control of Covid-19 and carefully reopen the country, or the consequences could be devastating, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday.
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