herbivore21
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Now that I'd love to see and use! I've never used any traditional pipes from producing countries save for the hubbly bubbly lolI had a Moroccan sebsi with a clay skuff and kept it intact for over a decade. LOVED that pipe.....might need to get another.
Welcome aboard old friend, this thread really needed some Norvape presence! It is so nice to see all of my fellow hash aficionados in one place!Oh man, this is my kind of thread!
This is also possible my friend. In my profession, I have certainly come across examples of very similar cross-cultural phenomena. These concepts are not set in stone of course, the use of language changes across time and place.Just to chime in on the kief/keef/kif confusion.
Traditionally the word kif in Morocco refers to a mixture of small buds, popcorn buds etc and a dark, black-ish tobacco that they also grow, but in the rest of the world it means unpressed hash, and even pressed hash. Where I'm at, the word keef meant pressed hash untill expousure to U.S. cannabis culture made the word change meaning, and now it refers to unpressed hash.
Maybe the same is happening in Morocco?
This is fascinating, it is so interesting to see you guys piecing together an anecdotal European history of cannabis products through your experiences!Anybody noticed the increase of sativa hashes on the European market in the last year or two? Used to be, as @Hogni described earlier, that the herb almost exclusively meant a sativa rush, and the hashish meant a body high... not anymore!
As norvape said, I think this was a point of confusion due to the different time period Norvape was discussing.What do you mean with "sativa hashes"? Made of european commercial trichomes or coming from Morocco/Lebanon, made of modern sativa hybrids etc.?
German hash market ist still dominated by moroccan hashes (guess at least 80-90%)
I don't agree with your classification "herb" stands for "sativa rush", "hash" for a "indica/body high".
I have heard exactly the same thing that you say about Moroccan product dominating the German hash market from other friends from your wonderful country.
As a hash processor myself, I have to agree with this when we consider cultivation at any level other than large scale outdoor grows. A large outdoor grow of a hearty landrace can still produce enough raw weight of flower to make the harvesting of the low yields of resin found in narrow leaf cultivars to still be viable. Still, the workload is much greater to extract from so much more flower; and due to prohibition etc, the places where this kind a grow can last are incredibly limited. In all scenarios other than very large outdoor grows, it is simply not possible to get the pure narrow leaf cultivars to produce anywhere near as much resin as the hybrids and broad leaf alternatives. The time taken to get full flowering of narrow leaf cultivars is also often much, much greater, as you say, there are many that need to flower for 2-3 times longer than a broad leaf of hybrid plant would.Imagine you grow a commercial indica/slightly sativa influenced hybrid. Flowering time is 8-9 weeks. If you grow a real sativa flowering time is at least 12-14 weeks. If you grow a landrace/heirloom sativa it's going fast up to 26 (!) weeks. Yield of pure sativas is the half to 2/3 compared to commercial (mostly) indica varieties. Price of this stuff has to be economically (cause of longer flowering time AND less yield) at least x3 or even x4. Nearly nobody here in Germany is such a connoisseur that he is able a/o willing to pay 20 or 30 €/gr in the north resp. 30-40/g in the south. So you have to grow it yourself or with luck you get some private stash from a grower.
Much of my own recent hash from an incredibly narrow leaf (but not a landrace!) phenotype recently, it is definitely something that should be on everybody's cannabis bucket list! Uplifting, maybe a little too racey if you have too much. Such energy!