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Michigan Update: Mad dash for licenses, NMU launches cannabis program

Michigan officials are gearing up for a mad rush on Dec. 15, the first day cannabis business-license applications become available in the state. The Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs will be releasing applications for all five categories of the state’s medical cannabis industry, including cultivation, processing, testing, transportation, and sales.

Nearly a thousand would-be business operators have signed up for state-run training sessions, Shelly Edgerton, director of the state’s licensing department, told a crowd in Ann Arbor, according to the Detroit Free Press. “We may have 50. We may have 1,500. We may have 5,000,” she said.

Attendees of the Ann Arbor training session had a host of questions about application details, the Free Press reported, ranging from licensing-related costs to how the state will accept tax payments. Offices in other states have been overwhelmed as cannabis operators, largely unable to get comprehensive banking services, deliver thousands of dollars in cash.

Dispensaries have been operating in a kind of gray area in Michigan for several years. Medical marijuana became legal in 2008, but no statewide licensing program existed at the time.

The shift to a state-regulated industry could cause some hiccups. Some lawmakers have called for dispensaries to shut down on Dec. 15, reopening only once they receive a state licenses. Others worry that could interrupt access to medicine for cannabis patients. State lawmakers in both the House and Senate have introduced bills that would allow dispensaries to stay open during the transition period.

The state was home to 218,556 registered patients as of late 2016, according to the most recent available state data. Here at Leafly, we estimate that number has grown roughly 10% during 2017, putting the number of current patients at around 240,000.

Northern Michigan University to Offer Cannabis Degree
The largest university in Upper Peninsula is offering a degree in cannabis. Northern Michigan University in Marquette began its medical plant chemistry program this semester. The program, which boasts about a dozen students in the first class, according to the Detroit Free Press, combines chemistry, biology, botany, horticulture, marketing, and finance.

It’s designed to give students a more traditional approach to cannabis education than niche programs at schools like Oaksterdam University or Humboldt Cannabis College. Students at NMU, the school says, will benefit from a traditional, four-year college experience and also addresses the science and business of growing cannabis.
 
Medical marijuana applicants will have to show the green before they get a license
Published 7:29 p.m. ET Oct. 17, 2017

EAST LANSING — People who want to get into the medical marijuana business in Michigan could face some serious sticker shock when they submit applications for a license.

In addition to licensing and regulatory fees they’ll face from local governments and the state, which will range from $5,000 to $57,000, they may also have to prove they have liquid assets ranging from $150,000 to $500,000 that will support that business.


The capitalization requirements are designed to make sure that the business is successful, said Andrew Brisbo, director of the state’s Bureau of Medical Marijuana Regulation.

“There are significant costs in setting up a business,” he said during a meeting of the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board in East Lansing on Tuesday. “We wanted to ensure that the businesses can thrive, but also ensure that they can stay in business and be successful.”


But some board members and many in the audience at the meeting said they feel the capitalization requirements are meant to shut out small and minority business owners from the lucrative medical marijuana business.

“It seems to me we’re placing barriers to the marketplace,” said board member David LaMontaine. “These numbers will bar minority business owners and mom and pop operations. These kinds of discussions lead to significant outside forces coming in and monopolizing this marketplace and I think that’s a mistake.”

Under the recommendation from LARA, applicants would have to show the following proof of assets when the apply for a license:

  • $300,000 for a dispensary
  • $150,000 for a grower of up to 500 medical marijuana plants
  • $300,000 for a grower of up to 1,000 plants
  • $500,000 for a grower of up to 1,500 plants
  • $300,000 for a processing facility
  • $200,000 for a secure transporter
  • $200,000 for testing facility

In addition, a municipality can charge up to $5,000 to get approval to operate in the city. The application fee for the state is going to run between $4,000 and $8,000 depending on the license and the state regulatory assessment will cost between $10,000 and $57,000. And the license applicants would also have to prove that they were able to get insurance policies that provide at least $100,000 of coverage.

Don Bailey, a board member and retired officer with the Michigan State Police, said there’s plenty of money in the medical marijuana business to justify such steep financial requirements from the state.

“There is a jury trial going on right now where a dispensary grossed $647,000 in a 10-week period of time,” he said. “So a lot of money is being made in these dispensaries right now.”

But Christina Montague, an Ann Arbor resident who wants to apply for a license to open a dispensary, said that cost is prohibitive for someone who wants to get into the business.

“These requirements are going to cut out small-business people, which I thought this law was all about, people in rural communities and especially minorities,” she said. “I would ask you to be more realistic and more fair for the small-business people and not let millionaires take over this business.”

And Chad Morrow of Gaylord, wondered why the capitalization requirements for other businesses were either much lower or non-existent. Applicants for licenses through the Liquor Control Commission have to show $50,000 in assets, while pharmacies don’t have to show any assets.

“This is really asinine. It’s not just the high cost, but we’re talking about medical product here,” he said. “And there’s no capitalization requirement for pharmacies.”

Brisbo said the department came up with the figures when looking at the asset requirements in other states, including Arizona, which requires $150,000 in assets for dispensary; Connecticut, which requires $2 million each in assets for a growing or processing operation, and Nevada, which requires $250,000 in liquid assets for growers, processors and dispensaries.

But he also said the department is willing to be flexible before a final number is approved.

“We looked at other state requirements and known costs of acquiring a license,” he said. “We looked at the data we had and put it out there as a starting point for discussion. We want to have input and understand the concerns of interested parties and the board’s perspective on things before a final decision is made.”

Board chairman Rick Johnson said after the three hours of comments from a frustrated audience that “there appears to be a lot of work to do on this. I understand what people are saying and I’m open to looking at what works best to make sure that patients get the product.”

The licensing board could take up the issue of asset requirements for a license when it meets again in November.

Applications for medical marijuana licenses will be available from the state on Dec. 15 and the licensing board is expected to begin awarding licenses in the first quarter of 2018.
 
You got to love this asshole (NOT), Councilman Scott Benson;
"What these new initiatives are trying to do is take away the legislative body's prerogative and take away something that took two years to enable and had great community support,"

The fucking legislature has NO prerogatives except those granted to them by the electorate. Compared to direct democracy via specific ballot proposals, the legislature ain't shit and they need to start remembering who funds their fucking paychecks.


Detroit's medical marijuana laws could change in November

Local religious and community leaders joining forces in Detroit to protest two medical marijuana proposals slated for the November ballot that they say will undo city rules that keep dispensaries away from places like churches and parks.

On November 7, Detroiters will decide on two proposals that have to do with expanding medical marijuana dispensaries and production in the city of Detroit.

Two proposals are on the November 7th ballot in Detroit. Both having to do with expanding medical marijuana dispensaries and production in the City of Detroit.

The two proposals will be on the ballot would amend Detroit's zoning ordinance and opt Detroit into expanded medical marijuana production according to the Medical Marihuana Facilities Licensing Act

Pastor Marvin Winans is leading the group of city leaders saying no.

"I ride down the street and the whiff in I smell along with coming from buildings. It is amazing," Winans said.

He's got councilman Scott Benson on his side who says the vote would just undo what the council has done.

"What these new intitatives are trying to do is take away the legislative body's prerogative and take away something that took two years to enable and had great community support," Benson said.

If Detroiters vote yes on the ballot initiative, it would essentially eliminate the city council's March ordinance that regulated the nearly 283 dispensaries in the city.

"What I am against is for allowing the same situation we saw two years ago, where we had dispensaries everywhere in the city of Detroit," said Councilman James Tate.

If Detroit votes yes, it would mean that the city would have to follow state law regarding medical marijuana dispensaries. The problem with that is the state doesn't regulate the number of dispensaries in the city of Detroit.

"Our children are offended by the smell of marijuana - this plant, this god-given plant? I don't understand these church-going people who are saying God made a mistake when it came to this plant? I don't get it, I don't buy it," said Thomas Lavigne, who wants a yes vote on the proposals.

And others say that the current city Council ordnance puts too much restriction on the medical marijuana business.

"Medical marijuana is a business. Pastor Winans doesn't have a business, he has a business it's his church. Why is he getting involved in medical marijuana business and not his church business?" DeMeeko Williams said.

"It's about children and what our children have access to. They should not have more access to a weed dispensary then they do to a school, to a library, or to a playground," Winans said.

The vote is set for November 7.
 
The Predicted Rush of Michigan Cannabis Farmers
Despite a bellicose and anti-weed government, Michigan cannabis farmers are about to make a splash in the Great Lake State.

Are Michigan cannabis farmers about to hit gold? Or will their state’s law enforcement do everything in their power to shut them down before they can reach their full potential?

A New Green Rush?
The powers-that-be in the state aren’t holding back their opinion that cannabis is no good.

Officially, authorities in Michigan are wasting no effort in discouraging the state’s citizens from seeking solace in legal medical cannabis. Or discouraging Michigan cannabis farmers.

The state’s attorney general has gone on record declaring the state’s decade-old medical-marijuana laws are a cloak to disguise drug cartels. Law-enforcement is acting accordingly.

A gang of drug cops just north of Detroit has earned a notorious reputation for using military-style tactics and gear when pursuing cases against registered marijuana patients. The target of one raid was an active sheriff’s deputy who committed the crime of having cannabis-infused butter in his home. He later took his own life.

The state’s hundreds of marijuana dispensaries have become prime targets for law enforcement, who require no more “investigation” than perusing ads in the local press.

Even the bureaucrats tasked with guiding the state’s medical-cannabis program are hostile: Their official plan for licensing marijuana activity in the state is predicated on shutting that activity down for as long as six months. Consequently, this would leave patients who actually need the stuff with no alternate supply of medicine aside from the black market.

And it’s not working. At all. This state loves weed.

Michigan Cannabis Farmers
Michigan looks like a near-lock to legalize recreational marijuana next year.

A college in the state’s far-north Upper Peninsula on Lake Superior is offering an undergraduate degree in “medicinal plant chemistry,” Ivory Tower-speak for “majoring in weed science.”

And despite the bureaucratic wrangling, the fees, the delays and a bellicose federal Justice Department, state officials are preparing for a rush of up to thousands of would-be licensed medical cannabis entrepreneurs, once the application period for licensing opens Dec. 15.

The Great Northern Green Rush
As the Detroit Free Press reported, cannabis is expected to be a $700 million a year game right out of the gate. And this is before marijuana is available to all comers 21 and over.

Authorities aren’t sure exactly how many hopefuls, including Michigan cannabis farmers, will seek a business license in this sector, but they predict it could be in the thousands. Almost 1,000 people signed up for official, state-sponsored training. This figure is according to Shelly Edgerton, the director of the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs.

As of last year, there were just shy of 219,000 medical marijuana cardholders in the state. People who, despite the clear message sent by law enforcement, obtained a physician’s note for a serious illness. Under Michigan’s original marijuana laws, those people had to rely on 38,100 caregivers. Each caregiver could supply medicine to no more than five people.

Now, the state will offer five different medical marijuana licenses. Dispensaries, transporters, testers, processors and cultivators. Additionally, Michigan cannabis farmers will be able to grow up to 1,500 plants, according to the Free Press.

It’s not clear how quickly the state will hand out licenses after the application period begins on Dec. 15. It’s also not clear what medical marijuana patients are supposed to do in the meantime.

Growing Pains
This “gap period” is causing a stir in the state legislature. Cannabis patients and their loved ones have crammed committee hearings. They have made their case that their seizures, cancer and other serious ailments won’t take a break once authorities turn off their official cannabis supply on Dec. 15. This is the date when dispensaries are supposed to close while their license applications are processed.

The legislature owns at least some of the blame for the current conflict.

They apparently failed to recognize the need for a transition period. Now recognizing this serious problem, some humanitarian lawmakers are now pushing to allow dispensaries some kind of temporary permit to keep the flow of medicine going.

Final Hit: Michigan Expects Rush of Thousands of Legal Cannabis Farmers
Seems basic, and simple to fix. Wrong! Like everywhere and everything else when colossal sums of money are involved, the prospect of a fortune built on marijuana is bringing out the very best in us all.

Proponents of this black-out period include Steve Linder. He’s a Republican political consultant working with a group of marijuana entrepreneurs called the “Michigan Responsibility Council.”

For them, “responsibility” is shutting down the industry entirely until the state doles out its official permits.

This is prompting accusations of a public-private cabal. Or, as we call it in America, “business as usual.”

“What millionaires are you working for and who wants a monopoly in this business?” Sen. Rick Jones asked Linder. Jones is a Republican and one of the sponsors of the reasonable, common-sense plan to allow dispensaries to remain open with temporary permits after Dec. 15.

This sounds like discord. No! It’s discourse. And a sign that in Michigan, cannabis is following the same boilerplate script obeyed in Colorado, Washington, California and beyond. The Great Lakes’ great Green Rush is just beginning.
 
To hear the entire conversation from the 'Detroit Today' show, there is an audio link in the original article. Follow the link in the title.

Detroiters To Determine Future of Medical Marijuana Policy

Oct. 23, 2017

The upcoming election in Detroit could have a big impact on the medical marijuana landscape in the city.

Detroiters will vote on two proposals related to the city’s medical marijuana ordinance on November 7th. They would allow dispensaries to open near places such as liquor stores and places of worship. And they would create legal protections for grow facilities.

It’s an issue that has sparked tension between patients who benefit from marijuana and need safe access, residents who don’t want pot shops or grow facilities in their neighborhoods, and a budding industry in the city.

Would these proposals help sort this all out? Or would they exacerbate the city’s struggle to deal with these issues?

A number of people close to the issue, as well as experts on the issue locally and statewide, join Detroit Today with Stephen Henderson to help sort out what the proposals are and what they would mean for the city.

“We’re agnostic as it relates to the product,” says Melvin “Butch” Hollowell, corporation counsel for the City of Detroit. “The genie’s out of the bottle as it related to that. It’s really just a question about how does it impact neighborhoods and making sure it’s well-regulated… The neighborhoods have to be respected. And they probably weren’t when it first started.”

Former state Rep. Jeff Irwin (D-Ann Arbor) also joins the conversation to talk about the proposals, as well as an effort he’s working on to legalize recreational marijuana statewide and regulate it like alcohol. Irwin is also a candidate for state Senate in 2018.

“If we’re going to keep this out of the neighborhoods, we’ve got to create a viable commercial license opportunity,” says Irwin. “Because right now, with it being illegal, that’s what pushed so much of this activity into the neighborhoods.”

Henderson also speaks with Jonathan Barlow of Citizens for Sensible Cannabis Reform, the group that collected signatures to put these questions on the ballot, as well City Councilman James Tate, who introduced the marijuana ordinance that the proposals would change.

“I’m a ‘no,’ personally,” says Tate, who represents District 1 in the Northwest side of Detroit. “The fact that this will allow for these particular establishments to be right next to daycare centers is a problem for me.”

“I haven’t seen any crime stats or any data that says any of these (marijuana provisioning centers) are deteriorating or causing this much more elevation in crime,” says Barlow. “We’re actually dealing with an industry that’s trying to create safe routes to school and safe atmospheres in their communities. They’re one of the most community-minded industries that you have.”
 
I don't know.... but this whole legalization thing is starting to look like 'watch what you wish for.' And I'm not just talking Michigan.

Mom and pop could be squeezed out of Michigan’s marijuana industry
by Larry Gabriel
October 25, 2017

Attorney Clarence Dass addressed the crowd assembled at the Reserve in Birmingham for Howard & Howard's "The Business of Cannabis conference": "All of you are going to be very wealthy people."

That is yet to be seen as the state rules for the medical marijuana regulation and distribution system take form. However, as we learn more about discussions taking place with the Medical Marihuana Licensing Board, it's starting to look like you may have to already be wealthy to get into the game at all. Proposed rules, leaking out from committees, suggest that some businesses will have to have up to a half-million dollars in liquid assets (cash) just to get into the game.

Numbers recently announced by the state Bureau of Medical Marihuana Regulation suggest that recipients of Class C grower licenses (up to 1,500 plants) will have to have $500,000 on hand. Class B licenses (1,000 plants) come in at $300,000, and Class A licenses (500 plants) come in at $150,000. Provisioning centers will be required to maintain $300,000.

By comparison, the state requires $50,000 of liquor store owners.

"I didn't think the numbers were going to be that high going into this," says Jamie Lowell, owner of Third Coast Compassion Center in Ypsilanti — the first licensed, openly operating facility in the state. "I don't really know where those numbers came from. Obviously the lower you go the more participation, and that's what I personally would like to see."


Those numbers aren't written in stone and Lowell hopes the state board brings them down, as an activist fighting for the 2008 Michigan Medical Marihuana Act and this year's MI Legalize petition effort to put legalization on the 2018 gubernatorial ballot. Most of the grassroots level folks who have been fighting to get this system set up don't have the kind of money necessary to participate.

Andrew Brisbo, director of the Bureau of Medical Marihuana Regulation, displayed some flexibility in saying that the suggested amounts of money are "a starting point for discussion."

It may be a starting point but it has also sent an alarm through the legions of prospective business owners in this precarious new industry.

"I believe that it is tragic that the very people that created this industry are being pushed out," says George Brikho, a cofounder of Evergreen Management, a consortium of various marijuana and related businesses. "Adding these ridiculous fees to existing costs was only geared by the special interest groups that Evergreen has been fighting through the legislative process."

Brikho specifically named the beer, wine and liquor distribution industry as supporting provisions to keep smaller mom and pop businesses from the core of the industry.

"We did our best to make it as small-business friendly as possible," Brikho says. "They want to snuff out the very people who created this industry."

His fear is that the usual arc of capitalism, wherein small markets spring up and are nurtured by an industry until it grabs the attention of big corporate interests, is ready to come in and rake up the mega profits. In a practice known as stacking, one entity can own more than one license. Michigan will allow stacking. That means, for instance, that while the most plants a grower can get a license for is 1,500, one entity might own enough licenses to grow 150,000 plants. And when you get into the economics of scale, it's going to be pretty tough for mom and pop to compete with the purchasing power, lower prices and volume of goods the big companies can leverage.

And none of this even addresses the cost of licenses from the state and municipality, property costs, setup fees, equipment (lights, etc.), inventory, payroll, and more. You're going to have legal fees because anybody who steps into the legal morass of the marijuana business without a good lawyer's advice is foolish.

One of the conundrums of that legal maze, perhaps the primary conundrum, was addressed by a participant at the Howard & Howard conference. He seemed dumbfounded at the fact that even though there is a medical marijuana system up and running, it's federally illegal. He came back to the point a few times just to be clear that after you get your local permission and your state certification and put all your money down that it's possible that the feds could arrest you and take all your property.

Yes, it can happen — even though you get permission to operate from the city and the state!

And based on the way things are going in Washington these days, we have little guidance as to which way this medical marijuana thing is going to swing. The feds are still hanging on to the claim that marijuana has "no accepted medical use" while people across the country are using it to control seizures, cancer, and pain — just to name a few.

I don't know how these things usually go when a new industry springs up. Or if there is anything usual about the path marijuana is traveling. But it seems pretty clear that folks who want to come in from the cold in the marijuana business better bring a lot of cold, hard cash with them.

Actually, that's another of the problems with the marijuana business maze. Since banks are regulated by federal law, mostly they don't touch marijuana businesses due to drug money laundering laws. It's pretty much cash only.

In view of this issue, director of the state Licensing and Regulatory Affairs Shelly Edgerton, who I have seen three times at marijuana events trying to help people understand what is going on, said at the MMFLA Application Primer and Participant Conference at the Kensington Hotel in Ann Arbor that LARA will be accepting cash when it begins taking applications on Dec. 15.

There was also discussion at the Ann Arbor conference that some new banking products are being developed for marijuana businesses in Michigan so that people don't have to walk around with giant wads of cash in their pockets. But that is for another discussion.

Dec. 15 also seems to be the date that marijuana storefronts need to shut down in order to be considered for a state license under new regulations.

"As far as the state is concerned, they say if you're open past Dec. 15 there could be an impediment in your application," says Lowell. Lowell has been a principal in putting on these conferences and has been in contact with LARA's Edgerton, so I'm inclined to believe his take on this. Some storefronts have closed already in order not to annoy folks at the state. Do what you feel is necessary, but it seems like there shouldn't be any problem until Dec. 15.
 
Concerns over marijuana licensing board chair's past cloud future
Updated on October 25, 2017 at 9:13 AMPosted on October 25, 2017 at 8:30 AM

By Emily Lawler and Craig Mauger

LANSING -- What happens when a long-time lobbyist, described as a guy "everybody knows," helps pick who gets a slice of an $837-million developing industry? Michigan is about to find out.

Rick Johnson was once the speaker of the Michigan House. He then spent a decade as a registered lobbyist in Lansing. Now, he's the chair of the new Medical Marihuana Licensing Board, the board that will choose which businesses get licenses to grow, transport and sell medical marijuana in the state.

Some view Johnson as an ethical broker who will enforce state application requirements with an even hand. But others are concerned that Johnson's deep connections to Lansing's business elite could impact his decisions.

While Johnson has repeatedly denied he has any conflicts of interest, an investigation found at least one of Johnson's former lobbying clients is considering pursuing a license from the Johnson-led board. Johnson also has multiple other connections with those who could seek to influence the process.

Under Michigan's new medical marijuana law, businesses that want to be part of the industry need authorization from the five-member licensing board. Gov. Rick Snyder formally appointed Johnson chair of the board on May 26. Johnson terminated his lobbyist registration in November 2016, but his past has inspired concerns from some, like Sen. Rick Jones, a Republican from Grand Ledge.


"I wanted the board to not only be squeaky clean, I wanted it to have all of the appearance as being squeaky clean," Jones said. "In my mind, you would never have a former lobbyist on that board."






Emails obtained by MLive and the Michigan Campaign Finance Network show a pattern of influence.



Less than a week after Johnson's appointment became official, a Texas businessman met with officials within the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) about his interest in medical marijuana, according to a LARA spokesperson. That businessman, Robert Joe Tondu, also owns an energy generation plant in Michigan and had previously paid Johnson to lobby on his behalf in Lansing.

In a Sept. 12 interview, Johnson initially said he had no former clients who were looking to get licenses from the board he leads. Then, asked specifically about Tondu's interest, Johnson responded that he worked for Tondu on energy issues only, and that he hadn't done any work for Tondu for more than year.

He also said that he wasn't sure that Tondu was definitely getting into the marijuana business.

"I don't see a conflict with anyone," Johnson continued. "Here's why: We as a board, we really don't have a hell of a lot of control over it. If they fill out the application, pay the fees, follow every letter of the application, we say yes. If they don't, we can say no."


However, state law allows the board some wiggle room to consider more subjective criteria, like an applicant's moral character or an applicant's financial ability to maintain a medical marijuana facility.

In an interview, Tondu said he is unsure whether he will apply for a license, invest in another applicant's business or decide against pursuing an investment in Michigan altogether. The application window doesn't open until Dec. 15.

Tondu said he has never discussed his medical marijuana business plans with Johnson. He did, however, say he congratulated Johnson on his appointment to the board.

"Everybody knows Rick Johnson," Tondu said in a phone interview. "Do I get an advantage? I am going to go through LARA and the four other members. All he's going to be able to say is I know this guy ... and he's honest."

Science Inspired Tondu's Interest

At this point, Tondu's interest in medical marijuana is the clearest connection Johnson appears to have with a potential applicant for a license.

The connection only became apparent through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request of email exchanges between a group of registered lobbyists and LARA officials. According to the emails, Lansing-based lobbyist Manny Lentine wrote a message on May 17 to ask state regulators to meet with a client he said owned an energy generation facility in Filer City, south of Manistee.


"Joe is finalizing his business plan and discussion with you will help establish his comfort level or cause him to think things through differently," Lentine wrote in his email to state officials, referring to Tondu. "Not looking for anything confidential in anyway, which I know you would not provide if even asked."

Lentine, who represents multiple medical marijuana-interested clients, did not respond to a request for comment. But Jason Moon, spokesperson for LARA, confirmed a meeting with Tondu took place on June 1.

In an interview, Tondu said the science behind medical marijuana first got him interested in the field. He's travelled to Colorado, Canada and elsewhere to study it, and he's trying to determine if there's an opportunity for him in the industry, he said. He's been approached by dispensary owners about investing in their businesses and he's been approached by others about using the property he owns near his Michigan power plant for a medical marijuana business, Tondu said.

"I haven't decided if I am going to or not," Tondu said of getting into the industry. He added that he wants to see the state's final administrative rules for medical marijuana businesses, which will likely debut in December.


Johnson said he did work for Tondu three or four years ago, and then about two years ago he helped on negotiations for a new contract between Tondu and Consumers Energy, which uses energy generated from Filer City. Johnson said his work on that deal was completed about a year ago.

Tondu said Lentine has been his full-time lobbyist and that he's paid Dodak Johnson and Associates, Johnson's old firm, a "small amount" to also lobby for him. Tondu didn't recall an exact amount but he mentioned the rough figure of $500 a month.

Lentine is also listed as a resident agent for R Johnson, LLC, a limited liability company Johnson occassionaly lists as his employer on campaign contributions, according to state filings.

Financial Disclosure Filed Months After Appointment


The Medical Marijuana Licensing Board at its Oct. 17 meeting in East Lansing. (Kaytie Boomer | MLive.com)
Under the 2016 medical marijuana law, the licensing board itself can't hire anyone who's worked in the last three years for someone who's applied for a license. The law is unclear on whether that provision includes board members themselves.

But that's just one of the law's provisions that seek to prevent conflicts of interest among medical marijuana regulators, including a requirement that licensing board members turn in disclosures listing their personal financial interests. The law directs those disclosures go to the governor's office, which is not subject to FOIA, meaning there is no requirement that the disclosures be shared with the public.


The governor's office has declined to voluntarily release Johnson's disclosure. But a spokesperson confirmed Johnson turned his disclosure in only recently, on Sept. 18, 116 days after Johnson was officially appointed by Snyder, and after he had already taken part in three public board meetings. The other four board members, the governor's office said, turned their financial disclosures in during the months of June and July.

Anna Heaton, spokesperson for the governor's office, said Johnson had previously turned in a separate form on potential conflicts of interest. She also noted that the board will not begin receiving license applications from anyone until December.

However, Jones, who chairs the Senate committee that worked on the medical marijuana law, said he didn't understand why Johnson had been appointed at all before that disclosure was filed. Jones said his understanding was that the disclosure was part of the rules for the appointments.

"I think it's outrageous that he got appointed to such an important position without following the rules as I know them," Jones said.

There are medical marijuana patients and business owners who would like to know more about Johnson's financial interests. Rick Thompson, of Flint, has been a long-time medical marijuana advocate and he's written about medical marijuana policy in the state since 2009. He said Johnson's appointment to the licensing board raised even more suspicion of large businesses' influence in the medical marijuana rulemaking process.


"In the medical marijuana community, we're very concerned about the involvement of lobbyists," Thompson explained, adding that someone on the board could shift policy to favor a certain business in ways that aren't obvious.

Johnson's many connections

In addition to his relationship with Tondu, Johnson, a farmer from Leroy who began serving in the House in 1999, has other connections to those interested in medical marijuana policy.

For example, Johnson serves on a community organization called Friends of Evart in his home area with southeast Michigan businessman Robert Barnes, one of the owners of Belle Tire. Johnson said he's known Barnes, who also owns a luxury game reserve in Evart, for about two years.

Barnes and his brother, Donald Barnes Jr., registered a new business in Michigan called Weed Rx on May 8, according to a state filing. Bill Nowling, a spokesperson for the Barnes family, said Weed Rx is not affiliated with Belle Tire and was formed "in the event they should ever enter the legal medical marijuana industry."

Johnson said he wasn't aware of any plans Barnes has to get into the medical marijuana business.

In addition to knowing people who may pursue a license, Johnson said, as a lobbyist, he also worked on the bills that ultimately became Michigan's medical marijuana law and the bills that created the licensing board on which he now sits. Johnson did not elaborate on his role, but said he did not have a paying client, but rather did so for personal reasons. Lawmakers who led the legislation in the House and Senate said they did not recall Johnson's involvement.


However, a photograph shows Johnson at the bill signing for the legislation, posing for a picture with Snyder; four other lobbyists; Republican consultant Steve Linder; a business owner; and the package's primary sponsor, former Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. Snyder and Callton are holding one of the bills in the photograph.

At the time, Johnson was a partner in the lobbying firm Dodak Johnson and Associates. Since then, Johnson has handed control of his old lobbying firm to his former partner, Lew Dodak, who is also a former state House speaker.

Because of Johnson's new position, Dodak said in an interview that his firm won't take medical marijuana clients while he's in charge of it.

'You Cannot Erase Your Prior Relationship'

Multiple sources, including Dodak, interviewed for this story spoke highly of Johnson's personal ethics.

Johnson himself said in an interview that he would tell people he's had previous relationships with to "follow the rules." Johnson said he's even advocated for an anonymous application process, in which applicants' names would be kept secret from the board members considering the applications. However, Johnson said he was told the board couldn't do that.

But an anonymous process is still a possibility, according to Andrew Brisbo, director of the state's Bureau of Medical Marijuana Regulation. In an interview, Brisbo said it's possible that the board could examine applications with the applicants' names redacted. Before making a decision, the bureau has to evaluate how practical it is to redact names from the "voluminous applications" that are expected to come in, Brisbo said.


Johnson said he doesn't care whose names are on the applications.

"All I really care about is the patients and making damn sure they get treated right," Johnson said.

His former partner, Dodak, said he would have no concerns about Johnson's role on the board.

"Ethically, he's 100 percent on the high side," Dodak said.

Likewise, former Rep. Ed Gaffney, a Republican from Grosse Pointe Farms, who served in the House with Johnson, said he never saw Johnson do anything unethical.

"Of all of the people in Lansing, I think he would be one of the most fair," Gaffney said.

But Gaffney, who served eight years on the Liquor Control Commission, did voice concerns about Johnson's connections to individuals he could soon be licensing. The Liquor Control Commission regulates the liquor industry.

Serving on a regulatory board, Gaffney said, it would be difficult to be objective when considering an application from someone a board member previously worked for.

"In your gut, you cannot erase your prior relationship," Gaffney said.

Gaffney called boards like the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board and the Liquor Control Commission "extremely important."

"They have great power," he said. "They can either put somebody's business out of business or with their action allow somebody to make millions of dollars."
 
Lobbyists try to shape Michigan's medical marijuana rules before they're made
Updated on October 25, 2017 at 11:16 AMPosted on October 25, 2017 at 7:00 AM
By: Emily Lawler and Craig Mauger



LANSING, MI - When big businesses open up medical marijuana facilities under a new law next year, they'll know the rules well. In fact, they'll have helped shape them.

Since February, businesses - through a cadre of lobbyists -- have been privately weighing in on potential rules for the new, $837 million medical marijuana industry.

For smaller players like Elijah Jackson, 26, a caregiver in Monroe County, it's hard to see where he fits into a picture he hasn't helped paint.

"Honestly, I don't at this point," Jackson said. "I would love to be able to communicate a little more directly with this board and maybe get on a more personal level with them. I would hope to be able to secure at least a 500-count plant license... that would be the dream, would be to have the license."

The state officials who will be in charge of regulating medical marijuana have agreed to personal meetings with big players, gone out to lunch with their lobbyists and given private presentations to lobbyist groups, according to records obtained by MLive and the Michigan Campaign Finance Network under the Freedom of Information Act.

The action stems from a 2016 law that set up the framework regulating marijuana facilities, from grow operations to dispensaries. But the legislature left many of the details up to the new Medical Marihuana Licensing Bureau within the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, and the licensing up to the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board, which begins accepting applications Dec. 15.

The department asked lobbyists and others for input through a series of questionnaires, said BMMR Director Andrew Brisbo, as it gathered information and educated itself before crafting regulations.

"We needed to rely on expertise, and that is individuals that are interested participants in the industry, their representation, other state regulatory agencies, we really have tried to gather as much information from all those sources as possible," Brisbo said.

But for some, giving potential marijuana businesses input the rules they sought to be licensed under is concerning.

"There's a very famous quote that says you can make the law and I'll make the rules and I'll win every time. And I can't recall who said that quote, but it's never been more true than in this circumstance," said Rick Thompson, a medical marijuana advocate.

Big, small businesses fight for same licenses

What's shaping up is a battle between the interests of existing medical marijuana shops that seek to stay in the business once it's regulated, and larger players looking to break into the industry.

Existing dispensaries, which many patients rely on, are operating in a legal grey area that will soon become black and white. Dispensaries will be either licensed or unlicensed, legal or illegal.

Former state Rep. Mike Callton, who sponsored the 2016 law that creates a regulatory system for medical marijuana dispensaries, said he's seen some bad ones.

"I saw a place I wouldn't buy a hot dog in. You know what I'm saying? It was just pretty rough looking," Callton said.

He said the new, regulated market will attract more investors and more capital, and lead to a more professional industry.

But people who already operate in the industry don't want that shift to mean they get boxed out.

Dan Hall, a caregiver in Jackson who attended an August meeting of the Medical Marihuana Licensing Board, wasn't surprised to learn the department had been talking with lobbyists for months before the board started taking public input at their meetings.

"They're protecting the interests of their cronies that weren't willing to take the risks that we were willing to take when we were willing to take them, regardless of the reasons and motivations," Hall said.

Biggest players still in the shadows

LARA sent out a series of questionnaires to lobbyists and other interested parties starting in February. They solicited input, but in most cases lobbyists weren't entirely transparent, at least via email, about where that input was coming from.

"In response to these questions, please see responses I received from one client below," wrote Manny Lentine in a March 21 email to LARA's Colleen Curtis, without identifying which client.

Brisbo said he knew whom many lobbyists were representing.

"I think in a lot of cases we met with lobbyists and their clients, so we knew who a lot of them were representing. But in the end, the aggregation of that information, it becomes sort of immaterial as to the source, if you will, because we wanted to collect all perspectives," Brisbo said.

Lentine, who did not respond to requests for comment on this article, is a registered lobbyist. But technically he and others advocating on behalf of clients don't have to register.

Michigan defines lobbying as "...communicating directly with an official in the executive branch of state government or an official in the legislative branch of state government for the purpose of influencing legislative or administrative action." But only some officials -- including elected officeholders and the highest-ranking department personnel -- are considered lobbyable.

For these questionnaires, the responses were directed to Curtis, a classified civil servant who doesn't fall under the act.

One company mentioned directly in emails is Moxie, a company that processes and distributes marijuana in multiple states. Lobbyist Ron Khoury submitted their answers to one of the LARA questionnaires. Its representatives did not respond to a request for comment.

In one email, Curtis thanked Gary Owen, a lobbyist for one of the state's largest lobbying firms, Governmental Consultant Services Inc., for lunch and said it was good to meet with him and someone whose name was redacted to talk "about the new medical marijuana licensing law and the Department's progress."

In other emails, Owen asked state regulators, including Brisbo, to attend summits on medical marijuana in the firm's conference room. Owen specifically said in one message that "even some folks that may be seeking licensure" would attend one of the events. Brisbo agreed to attend a July summit.

Brisbo said the department's meetings weren't limited to lobbyists and their clients. They've spoken at different associations and made themselves available, he said. Recently the bureau formed workgroupsto do more information-gathering.

The bureau met with both people who were represented by lobbyists and those who weren't, he said.

"We have met with many different people, either individually or in larger groups," Brisbo said.

Benefits for big businesses

In at least a few instances, decisions at the legislative and administrative levels have benefitted big businesses.

The emails obtained by MLive show that Lentine was able to get language in the state budget that would allow the state to consider a "closed-loop" payment system for medical marijuana. The system would allow for the state to track money in the marijuana industry. Lentine's clients include CS Platform Technologies, which offers such a system, according to state lobbying records, and another called Payqwick that advertises itself as an electronic payment method for medical marijuana businesses.

The Department of Treasury doesn't plan to pursue the closed-loop payment system at this time, a spokesman said.

Administratively, one of the questions the department circulated was whether people should be able to operate more than one type of license -- growing, processing or selling -- out of a single facility.

Of three groups whose responses to that question were included in the FOIA request, two supported it on behalf of their clients.

"Yes, growers, processors, and provisioning centers should be allowed to operate at the same location. It allows for enhanced efficiency and less potential for contamination through material movement and handling as well as preservation of the plant's medicinal compounds, which are compromised when handled or stored improperly," wrote a company called Compassionate Advisors.

In September, the department announced its intent to allow the co-location of such facilities.

Other moves the BMMR announced do not directly correlate to the questions it asked lobbyists, but put big businesses in a position to benefit over smaller ones.

The law required the board to make sure applicants had the means to operate and maintain medical marijuana facilities, but left it up to regulators to determine what that meant. At an October meeting of the licensing board, the BMMR announced its intent to require businesses seeking facility licenses to have between $150,000 and $500,000 in start-up capital to qualify for licenses.

Those limits are enough to snuff out smaller companies, some said.

"Come on guys. Let the middle class, everyday guys into this business," said Christine Montague, of Ann Arbor, a caregiver who testified at the board's Oct. 17 hearing on the matter.

"It looks like it's going to hold us out, that's what concerns me," Montague said.

The department also decided to allow businesses to "stack" licenses for 1,500 plants, meaning they could have multiple licenses and grow double or triple or quadruple the plants in a single location. That's something the law doesn't contemplate, but some businesses supported through their lobbyists' responses to the questionnaires.

Open questions

There are some questions the department still hasn't settled.

It asked for input on things like whether businesses have to start new medical marijuana from seed, or could transition in bigger plants from current caregivers so they would have the medical marijuana available sooner. It asked what the mandatory testing standards for medical marijuana should be.

The department hasn't answered these questions yet, but they have plenty of input from lobbyists.

And for the smaller players interested in getting into the industry, advocating for themselves is hard when you go up against longstanding lobbying firms and powerful corporations.

"I wouldn't think I'd need a lobbyist. If I don't have a fair chance off the rip from doing this then, I don't know, whatever," said Jackson, the Monroe County caregiver.

George Brikho owns two hydroponic gardening stores, and would like to open a dispensary. He started a group called Evergreen Management to lobby for small business owners in the medical marijuana industry while the legislation was going through. He was going against powerful interests back then, he said, and it hasn't stopped.

"It was very tiresome for us to take on these big guys, because they obviously have deep pockets and deep relationships. We were able to beat them legislatively, and now we have a battle with it administratively," Brikho said.


 
Lobbyists try to shape Michigan's medical marijuana rules before they're made
Updated on October 25, 2017 at 11:16 AMPosted on October 25, 2017 at 7:00 AM
By: Emily Lawler and Craig Mauger



LANSING, MI - When big businesses open up medical marijuana facilities under a new law next year, they'll know the rules well. In fact, they'll have helped shape them.

Since February, businesses - through a cadre of lobbyists -- have been privately weighing in on potential rules for the new, $837 million medical marijuana industry.

For smaller players like Elijah Jackson, 26, a caregiver in Monroe County, it's hard to see where he fits into a picture he hasn't helped paint.

"Honestly, I don't at this point," Jackson said. "I would love to be able to communicate a little more directly with this board and maybe get on a more personal level with them. I would hope to be able to secure at least a 500-count plant license... that would be the dream, would be to have the license."

The state officials who will be in charge of regulating medical marijuana have agreed to personal meetings with big players, gone out to lunch with their lobbyists and given private presentations to lobbyist groups, according to records obtained by MLive and the Michigan Campaign Finance Network under the Freedom of Information Act.

The action stems from a 2016 law that set up the framework regulating marijuana facilities, from grow operations to dispensaries. But the legislature left many of the details up to the new Medical Marihuana Licensing Bureau within the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, and the licensing up to the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board, which begins accepting applications Dec. 15.

The department asked lobbyists and others for input through a series of questionnaires, said BMMR Director Andrew Brisbo, as it gathered information and educated itself before crafting regulations.

"We needed to rely on expertise, and that is individuals that are interested participants in the industry, their representation, other state regulatory agencies, we really have tried to gather as much information from all those sources as possible," Brisbo said.

But for some, giving potential marijuana businesses input the rules they sought to be licensed under is concerning.

"There's a very famous quote that says you can make the law and I'll make the rules and I'll win every time. And I can't recall who said that quote, but it's never been more true than in this circumstance," said Rick Thompson, a medical marijuana advocate.

Big, small businesses fight for same licenses

What's shaping up is a battle between the interests of existing medical marijuana shops that seek to stay in the business once it's regulated, and larger players looking to break into the industry.

Existing dispensaries, which many patients rely on, are operating in a legal grey area that will soon become black and white. Dispensaries will be either licensed or unlicensed, legal or illegal.

Former state Rep. Mike Callton, who sponsored the 2016 law that creates a regulatory system for medical marijuana dispensaries, said he's seen some bad ones.

"I saw a place I wouldn't buy a hot dog in. You know what I'm saying? It was just pretty rough looking," Callton said.

He said the new, regulated market will attract more investors and more capital, and lead to a more professional industry.

But people who already operate in the industry don't want that shift to mean they get boxed out.

Dan Hall, a caregiver in Jackson who attended an August meeting of the Medical Marihuana Licensing Board, wasn't surprised to learn the department had been talking with lobbyists for months before the board started taking public input at their meetings.

"They're protecting the interests of their cronies that weren't willing to take the risks that we were willing to take when we were willing to take them, regardless of the reasons and motivations," Hall said.

Biggest players still in the shadows

LARA sent out a series of questionnaires to lobbyists and other interested parties starting in February. They solicited input, but in most cases lobbyists weren't entirely transparent, at least via email, about where that input was coming from.

"In response to these questions, please see responses I received from one client below," wrote Manny Lentine in a March 21 email to LARA's Colleen Curtis, without identifying which client.

Brisbo said he knew whom many lobbyists were representing.

"I think in a lot of cases we met with lobbyists and their clients, so we knew who a lot of them were representing. But in the end, the aggregation of that information, it becomes sort of immaterial as to the source, if you will, because we wanted to collect all perspectives," Brisbo said.

Lentine, who did not respond to requests for comment on this article, is a registered lobbyist. But technically he and others advocating on behalf of clients don't have to register.

Michigan defines lobbying as "...communicating directly with an official in the executive branch of state government or an official in the legislative branch of state government for the purpose of influencing legislative or administrative action." But only some officials -- including elected officeholders and the highest-ranking department personnel -- are considered lobbyable.

For these questionnaires, the responses were directed to Curtis, a classified civil servant who doesn't fall under the act.

One company mentioned directly in emails is Moxie, a company that processes and distributes marijuana in multiple states. Lobbyist Ron Khoury submitted their answers to one of the LARA questionnaires. Its representatives did not respond to a request for comment.

In one email, Curtis thanked Gary Owen, a lobbyist for one of the state's largest lobbying firms, Governmental Consultant Services Inc., for lunch and said it was good to meet with him and someone whose name was redacted to talk "about the new medical marijuana licensing law and the Department's progress."

In other emails, Owen asked state regulators, including Brisbo, to attend summits on medical marijuana in the firm's conference room. Owen specifically said in one message that "even some folks that may be seeking licensure" would attend one of the events. Brisbo agreed to attend a July summit.

Brisbo said the department's meetings weren't limited to lobbyists and their clients. They've spoken at different associations and made themselves available, he said. Recently the bureau formed workgroupsto do more information-gathering.

The bureau met with both people who were represented by lobbyists and those who weren't, he said.

"We have met with many different people, either individually or in larger groups," Brisbo said.

Benefits for big businesses

In at least a few instances, decisions at the legislative and administrative levels have benefitted big businesses.

The emails obtained by MLive show that Lentine was able to get language in the state budget that would allow the state to consider a "closed-loop" payment system for medical marijuana. The system would allow for the state to track money in the marijuana industry. Lentine's clients include CS Platform Technologies, which offers such a system, according to state lobbying records, and another called Payqwick that advertises itself as an electronic payment method for medical marijuana businesses.

The Department of Treasury doesn't plan to pursue the closed-loop payment system at this time, a spokesman said.

Administratively, one of the questions the department circulated was whether people should be able to operate more than one type of license -- growing, processing or selling -- out of a single facility.

Of three groups whose responses to that question were included in the FOIA request, two supported it on behalf of their clients.

"Yes, growers, processors, and provisioning centers should be allowed to operate at the same location. It allows for enhanced efficiency and less potential for contamination through material movement and handling as well as preservation of the plant's medicinal compounds, which are compromised when handled or stored improperly," wrote a company called Compassionate Advisors.

In September, the department announced its intent to allow the co-location of such facilities.

Other moves the BMMR announced do not directly correlate to the questions it asked lobbyists, but put big businesses in a position to benefit over smaller ones.

The law required the board to make sure applicants had the means to operate and maintain medical marijuana facilities, but left it up to regulators to determine what that meant. At an October meeting of the licensing board, the BMMR announced its intent to require businesses seeking facility licenses to have between $150,000 and $500,000 in start-up capital to qualify for licenses.

Those limits are enough to snuff out smaller companies, some said.

"Come on guys. Let the middle class, everyday guys into this business," said Christine Montague, of Ann Arbor, a caregiver who testified at the board's Oct. 17 hearing on the matter.

"It looks like it's going to hold us out, that's what concerns me," Montague said.

The department also decided to allow businesses to "stack" licenses for 1,500 plants, meaning they could have multiple licenses and grow double or triple or quadruple the plants in a single location. That's something the law doesn't contemplate, but some businesses supported through their lobbyists' responses to the questionnaires.

Open questions

There are some questions the department still hasn't settled.

It asked for input on things like whether businesses have to start new medical marijuana from seed, or could transition in bigger plants from current caregivers so they would have the medical marijuana available sooner. It asked what the mandatory testing standards for medical marijuana should be.

The department hasn't answered these questions yet, but they have plenty of input from lobbyists.

And for the smaller players interested in getting into the industry, advocating for themselves is hard when you go up against longstanding lobbying firms and powerful corporations.

"I wouldn't think I'd need a lobbyist. If I don't have a fair chance off the rip from doing this then, I don't know, whatever," said Jackson, the Monroe County caregiver.

George Brikho owns two hydroponic gardening stores, and would like to open a dispensary. He started a group called Evergreen Management to lobby for small business owners in the medical marijuana industry while the legislation was going through. He was going against powerful interests back then, he said, and it hasn't stopped.

"It was very tiresome for us to take on these big guys, because they obviously have deep pockets and deep relationships. We were able to beat them legislatively, and now we have a battle with it administratively," Brikho said.


Same politically hooked up people getting the same unfair green light, just different industry. Same shit, different day.
 
Concerns over marijuana licensing board chair's past cloud future

Updated on October 25, 2017 at 9:13 AM Posted on October 25, 2017 at 8:30 AM
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Rick Johnson, chairman of the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board pictured during its Oct. 17, 2017 meeting in East Lansing. (Kaytie Boomer | MLive.com)
By Emily Lawler

elawler@mlive.com

By Emily Lawler and Craig Mauger

LANSING -- What happens when a long-time lobbyist, described as a guy "everybody knows," helps pick who gets a slice of an $837-million developing industry? Michigan is about to find out.

Rick Johnson was once the speaker of the Michigan House. He then spent a decade as a registered lobbyist in Lansing. Now, he's the chair of the new Medical Marihuana Licensing Board, the board that will choose which businesses get licenses to grow, transport and sell medical marijuana in the state.

Some view Johnson as an ethical broker who will enforce state application requirements with an even hand. But others are concerned that Johnson's deep connections to Lansing's business elite could impact his decisions.

While Johnson has repeatedly denied he has any conflicts of interest, an investigation found at least one of Johnson's former lobbying clients is considering pursuing a license from the Johnson-led board. Johnson also has multiple other connections with those who could seek to influence the process.

Under Michigan's new medical marijuana law, businesses that want to be part of the industry need authorization from the five-member licensing board. Gov. Rick Snyder formally appointed Johnson chair of the board on May 26. Johnson terminated his lobbyist registration in November 2016, but his past has inspired concerns from some, like Sen. Rick Jones, a Republican from Grand Ledge.

"I wanted the board to not only be squeaky clean, I wanted it to have all of the appearance as being squeaky clean," Jones said. "In my mind, you would never have a former lobbyist on that board."




Emails obtained by MLive and the Michigan Campaign Finance Network show a pattern of influence.

Less than a week after Johnson's appointment became official, a Texas businessman met with officials within the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) about his interest in medical marijuana, according to a LARA spokesperson. That businessman, Robert Joe Tondu, also owns an energy generation plant in Michigan and had previously paid Johnson to lobby on his behalf in Lansing.

In a Sept. 12 interview, Johnson initially said he had no former clients who were looking to get licenses from the board he leads. Then, asked specifically about Tondu's interest, Johnson responded that he worked for Tondu on energy issues only, and that he hadn't done any work for Tondu for more than year.

He also said that he wasn't sure that Tondu was definitely getting into the marijuana business.

"I don't see a conflict with anyone," Johnson continued. "Here's why: We as a board, we really don't have a hell of a lot of control over it. If they fill out the application, pay the fees, follow every letter of the application, we say yes. If they don't, we can say no."

However, state law allows the board some wiggle room to consider more subjective criteria, like an applicant's moral character or an applicant's financial ability to maintain a medical marijuana facility.

In an interview, Tondu said he is unsure whether he will apply for a license, invest in another applicant's business or decide against pursuing an investment in Michigan altogether. The application window doesn't open until Dec. 15.

Tondu said he has never discussed his medical marijuana business plans with Johnson. He did, however, say he congratulated Johnson on his appointment to the board.

"Everybody knows Rick Johnson," Tondu said in a phone interview. "Do I get an advantage? I am going to go through LARA and the four other members. All he's going to be able to say is I know this guy ... and he's honest."

Science Inspired Tondu's Interest

At this point, Tondu's interest in medical marijuana is the clearest connection Johnson appears to have with a potential applicant for a license.

The connection only became apparent through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request of email exchanges between a group of registered lobbyists and LARA officials. According to the emails, Lansing-based lobbyist Manny Lentine wrote a message on May 17 to ask state regulators to meet with a client he said owned an energy generation facility in Filer City, south of Manistee.

"Joe is finalizing his business plan and discussion with you will help establish his comfort level or cause him to think things through differently," Lentine wrote in his email to state officials, referring to Tondu. "Not looking for anything confidential in anyway, which I know you would not provide if even asked."

Lentine, who represents multiple medical marijuana-interested clients, did not respond to a request for comment. But Jason Moon, spokesperson for LARA, confirmed a meeting with Tondu took place on June 1.

In an interview, Tondu said the science behind medical marijuana first got him interested in the field. He's travelled to Colorado, Canada and elsewhere to study it, and he's trying to determine if there's an opportunity for him in the industry, he said. He's been approached by dispensary owners about investing in their businesses and he's been approached by others about using the property he owns near his Michigan power plant for a medical marijuana business, Tondu said.

"I haven't decided if I am going to or not," Tondu said of getting into the industry. He added that he wants to see the state's final administrative rules for medical marijuana businesses, which will likely debut in December.

Johnson said he did work for Tondu three or four years ago, and then about two years ago he helped on negotiations for a new contract between Tondu and Consumers Energy, which uses energy generated from Filer City. Johnson said his work on that deal was completed about a year ago.

Tondu said Lentine has been his full-time lobbyist and that he's paid Dodak Johnson and Associates, Johnson's old firm, a "small amount" to also lobby for him. Tondu didn't recall an exact amount but he mentioned the rough figure of $500 a month.

Lentine is also listed as a resident agent for R Johnson, LLC, a limited liability company Johnson occassionaly lists as his employer on campaign contributions, according to state filings.

Financial Disclosure Filed Months After Appointment


The Medical Marijuana Licensing Board at its Oct. 17 meeting in East Lansing. (Kaytie Boomer | MLive.com)
Under the 2016 medical marijuana law, the licensing board itself can't hire anyone who's worked in the last three years for someone who's applied for a license. The law is unclear on whether that provision includes board members themselves.

But that's just one of the law's provisions that seek to prevent conflicts of interest among medical marijuana regulators, including a requirement that licensing board members turn in disclosures listing their personal financial interests. The law directs those disclosures go to the governor's office, which is not subject to FOIA, meaning there is no requirement that the disclosures be shared with the public.

The governor's office has declined to voluntarily release Johnson's disclosure. But a spokesperson confirmed Johnson turned his disclosure in only recently, on Sept. 18, 116 days after Johnson was officially appointed by Snyder, and after he had already taken part in three public board meetings. The other four board members, the governor's office said, turned their financial disclosures in during the months of June and July.

Anna Heaton, spokesperson for the governor's office, said Johnson had previously turned in a separate form on potential conflicts of interest. She also noted that the board will not begin receiving license applications from anyone until December.

However, Jones, who chairs the Senate committee that worked on the medical marijuana law, said he didn't understand why Johnson had been appointed at all before that disclosure was filed. Jones said his understanding was that the disclosure was part of the rules for the appointments.

"I think it's outrageous that he got appointed to such an important position without following the rules as I know them," Jones said.

There are medical marijuana patients and business owners who would like to know more about Johnson's financial interests. Rick Thompson, of Flint, has been a long-time medical marijuana advocate and he's written about medical marijuana policy in the state since 2009. He said Johnson's appointment to the licensing board raised even more suspicion of large businesses' influence in the medical marijuana rulemaking process.

"In the medical marijuana community, we're very concerned about the involvement of lobbyists," Thompson explained, adding that someone on the board could shift policy to favor a certain business in ways that aren't obvious.

Johnson's many connections

In addition to his relationship with Tondu, Johnson, a farmer from Leroy who began serving in the House in 1999, has other connections to those interested in medical marijuana policy.

For example, Johnson serves on a community organization called Friends of Evart in his home area with southeast Michigan businessman Robert Barnes, one of the owners of Belle Tire. Johnson said he's known Barnes, who also owns a luxury game reserve in Evart, for about two years.

Barnes and his brother, Donald Barnes Jr., registered a new business in Michigan called Weed Rx on May 8, according to a state filing. Bill Nowling, a spokesperson for the Barnes family, said Weed Rx is not affiliated with Belle Tire and was formed "in the event they should ever enter the legal medical marijuana industry."

Johnson said he wasn't aware of any plans Barnes has to get into the medical marijuana business.

In addition to knowing people who may pursue a license, Johnson said, as a lobbyist, he also worked on the bills that ultimately became Michigan's medical marijuana law and the bills that created the licensing board on which he now sits. Johnson did not elaborate on his role, but said he did not have a paying client, but rather did so for personal reasons. Lawmakers who led the legislation in the House and Senate said they did not recall Johnson's involvement.

However, a photograph shows Johnson at the bill signing for the legislation, posing for a picture with Snyder; four other lobbyists; Republican consultant Steve Linder; a business owner; and the package's primary sponsor, former Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. Snyder and Callton are holding one of the bills in the photograph.

At the time, Johnson was a partner in the lobbying firm Dodak Johnson and Associates. Since then, Johnson has handed control of his old lobbying firm to his former partner, Lew Dodak, who is also a former state House speaker.

Because of Johnson's new position, Dodak said in an interview that his firm won't take medical marijuana clients while he's in charge of it.

'You Cannot Erase Your Prior Relationship'

Multiple sources, including Dodak, interviewed for this story spoke highly of Johnson's personal ethics.

Johnson himself said in an interview that he would tell people he's had previous relationships with to "follow the rules." Johnson said he's even advocated for an anonymous application process, in which applicants' names would be kept secret from the board members considering the applications. However, Johnson said he was told the board couldn't do that.

But an anonymous process is still a possibility, according to Andrew Brisbo, director of the state's Bureau of Medical Marijuana Regulation. In an interview, Brisbo said it's possible that the board could examine applications with the applicants' names redacted. Before making a decision, the bureau has to evaluate how practical it is to redact names from the "voluminous applications" that are expected to come in, Brisbo said.

Johnson said he doesn't care whose names are on the applications.

"All I really care about is the patients and making damn sure they get treated right," Johnson said.

His former partner, Dodak, said he would have no concerns about Johnson's role on the board.

"Ethically, he's 100 percent on the high side," Dodak said.

Likewise, former Rep. Ed Gaffney, a Republican from Grosse Pointe Farms, who served in the House with Johnson, said he never saw Johnson do anything unethical.

"Of all of the people in Lansing, I think he would be one of the most fair," Gaffney said.

But Gaffney, who served eight years on the Liquor Control Commission, did voice concerns about Johnson's connections to individuals he could soon be licensing. The Liquor Control Commission regulates the liquor industry.

Serving on a regulatory board, Gaffney said, it would be difficult to be objective when considering an application from someone a board member previously worked for.

"In your gut, you cannot erase your prior relationship," Gaffney said.

Gaffney called boards like the Medical Marijuana Licensing Board and the Liquor Control Commission "extremely important."

"They have great power," he said. "They can either put somebody's business out of business or with their action allow somebody to make millions of dollars."
 
Yo, Mom....you think that MI politicians and bureaucrats and MD politicians and bureaucrats come out of the same moron clone factory? Sure seems like it. Good luck up there.


Michigan: Medical marijuana 'super grows' would be snuffed out under bill


The legislature is considering a bill that would limit medical marijuana growing licenses to 1,500 plants per location, something that's the exact opposite of what the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs has recommended as it crafts regulations for medical marijuana facilities.

The legislature last year passed a bill regulating medical marijuana facilities, including growing operations. Three types of growing licenses are allowed:



  • The Class A license allows a grow of up to 500 medical marijuana plants.
  • The Class B license allows a grow of up to 1,000 medical marijuana plants.
  • The Class C license allows a grow of up to 1,500 medical marijuana plants.
But LARA, which was left in charge of many of the details in implementing medical marijuana facilities regulations, signaled last month that it would allow even bigger grows by letting companies "stack" the largest licenses and grow many times 1,500 plants in one location.

"It is the intent of the Bureau of Medical Marihuana Regulation to allow a potential licensee to apply for - and be granted - multiple ("stacked") class C grow licenses in a single location," wrote the department in a Sept. 28 press release.

That, said Rep. Jim Runestad, R-White Lake, is "beyond what I think many legislators intended."

He is the sponsor of House Bill 5189, which would limit medical marijuana growers from holding more than one license at a single facility. He also chairs the House Judiciary Committee, which took testimony on the bill Tuesday morning.

"Having super-grows could potentially monopolize the market and may not be the direction that we would want to go immediately. Only time will tell who the good actors are and if it is reasonable to allow unlimited stacking of licenses per location," Runestad told the committee.

Rep. Tim Greimel, D-Auburn Hills, questioned whether this bill would really quell monopolistic tendencies. It would still allow the same person to get multiple Class C licenses at different locations, he pointed out.

"That doesn't reduce the likelihood of monopolistic control over licenses any more than having them in one location, does it?" Greimel asked.

Under the bill, local governments have to "opt in" if they want to license medical marijuana facilities. Two representatives from local communities had different takes on the bill in the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday morning.

Thetford Township Trustee Eric Gunnels said he supported the bill.

"I do think that we should be cautious, that we don't allow, like you said, monopolies, monopolistic ventures to consolidate the market into the hands of a few," Gunnels said.

But Bangor Township Supervisor Glenn Rowley said his area had a shrinking revenue stream and large industrial properties medical marijuana grows would bring to life. They already have a few large companies requesting local permits for multiple Class C grows. He opposes the bill.

"We want everyone to succeed," Rowley said, adding he hoped they made a pile of money so big you need a Sherpa to get to the top of it.

Runestad said there was more testimony he couldn't get to before the committee was scheduled to end. At this point, though, he thinks there are the votes to get it out of committee and is planning to take it up again at the committee's next meeting.
 
Yo, Mom....you think that MI politicians and bureaucrats and MD politicians and bureaucrats come out of the same moron clone factory? Sure seems like it. Good luck up there.
Sigh.... tbh? I am beginning to think that ALL politicians come out of that moron clone factory... At least when it comes to mmj. :disgust:

The only thing I'm happy about is that they haven't eliminated the caregiver system. So even if the big guns come in, there will still be local growers that can provide for their patients.
 
Sigh.... tbh? I am beginning to think that ALL politicians come out of that moron clone factory... At least when it comes to mmj. :disgust:

The only thing I'm happy about is that they haven't eliminated the caregiver system. So even if the big guns come in, there will still be local growers that can provide for their patients.

I seem to remember, (hazy memory) maybe in the legalization petition, to allow for boutique grows. Does anyone know more or heard about this?

I personally like the idea of farmers markets for herbs and concentrates. In my mind when you get between the grower and consumer, price goes up and quality goes down.
 
Does anyone know more or heard about this?
I did not hear this.... but will ask around.

I personally like the idea of farmers markets for herbs and concentrates. In my mind when you get between the grower and consumer, price goes up and quality goes down.
Me too! And I'm bummed that I never had a chance to check out the 'farmer's market' they had going on in the Clio area for a few years.

And I would agree with the quality going down. I've seen some flower in dispensaries that I wouldn't buy because of the quality not being up to par. That's the flower that's usually marked as a 'sale' item. But I've purchased flower from a dispensary labeled as 'top shelf' and been majorly disappointed in the quality. Looked pretty but no punch.

That said; I've also seen an unscrupulous caregiver pass off inferior product to his patient. This patient relies solely on him for her meds and does not use a dispensary. I think he sold her what he can't offload to the dispensaries.

On another note; I've noticed the dispensaries are starting to have 'sales' on their top shelf flower with prices that are lower than they've advertised before. I'm wondering if they're starting to de-stock already (in lieu of Dec. 15th).
 
Oh! Looky what just came in on my feed!

Michigan: Medical marijuana dispensaries can stay open — for now

Kathleen Gray, Detroit Free Press Lansing BureauPublished 2:55 p.m. ET Nov. 1, 2017

After receiving hundreds of complaints from medical marijuana card holders that they would be without the product they need for their health for an extended period of time, the state Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs reversed itself Wednesday and decided to let dispensaries stay open during the licensing process.

The department had come up with a ruling in September that dispensaries should close by Dec. 15, which is the day that applications for five categories of licenses become available, or risk losing their chances of getting one of the lucrative licenses.

But medical marijuana cardholders — more than 272,000 in Michigan — worried that the lapse of time between applications and licenses being awarded by the state early next year would leave many of them without access to the product they use to treat a variety of ailments from cancer to epilepsy.

So the state approved an emergency rule Wednesday that will allow existing dispensaries that have gone through an approval process in the community where they operate to stay open while they go through the state licensing process.


“Patient input played a big factor,” said Andrew Brisbo, director of the state’s Bureau of Medical Marijuana Regulation. “When we looked at the feedback, especially from people with the greatest difficulty of access, we wanted to ensure that those folks would have access to their medicine.”

The ruling goes against the feelings of two members of the Michigan Medical Marijuana Licensing Board — retired Michigan State Police officer Don Bailey and chairman Rick Johnson — who wanted the dispensaries to shut down even sooner than Dec. 15.

But Brisbo said board members were made aware of the ruling and would honor its impact.

"Administrative rules have the effect of law, and the board can’t make decisions outside the confines of the rules," he said.


With the Dec. 15 deadline looming, legislators in both the House and Senate had proposed legislation that would have allowed dispensaries to stay open during the transition to the fully regulated market. But those bills only got one hearing and no vote.

“We’re really excited that the department is working to allow patients to continue accesssing medicine in a safe way during the transition period,” said Sen. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights, one of the sponsors of the bill. “It doesn’t matter if it’s a legislative fix or emergency rules. We’re just in favor of something that’s going to guarantee safe access.

Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge, another sponsor of the legislation, said after hearing from medical marijuana patients that he was all in favor of allowing dispensaries to stay open.

“Certainly, I want dispensaries to follow the law and get licensing, but there does need to be a transition period and as the representative of the Epilepsy Foundation stated at our hearing, it’s a matter of life and death for some of these people,” he said.

The medical pot shops that do stay open won't be guaranteed a license from the state, even if they have the blessing of their local community. But the fact that they continue to operate during the licensing process won't hurt their chances for a license.

Some of the dispensaries that have been operating with permission from their communities had closed down when LARA first came out with the advisory that they should shut down by Dec. 15.

Amir Makled, an attorney representing Advanced Wellness in Detroit, was thrilled by the news. The Detroit dispensary shut down in September after the initial rule came out because the owners didn’t want to jeopardize their chance at a license.

“It had a significant impact on them and their patients. They had to cover all of their costs for their building out of pocket,” Makled said. “And every one of their patients were in a real bind.”

Advanced Wellness has three dispensaries in Detroit, but only one of them had gotten approval from the city to operate. So that one on Warren will reopen and the other two will remain closed until they can get approval for a license.


There are dispensaries operating all over the state, including Detroit, Lansing, Ypsilanti, Ann Arbor and Flint. But other dispensaries, especially in northern Michigan, have shut down after police raided the facilities. Eight facilities were told to shut down last month by the Grand Traverse County Prosecutor's Office after a sting operation by a narcotics enforcement team led by Michigan State Police.

The applications for five categories of licenses — growers, processors, testers, secure transporters and dispensaries — will be available from the state on Dec. 15. The Michigan Medical Marijuana Licensing Board will begin awarding licenses early next year.

 
I did not hear this.... but will ask around.


Me too! And I'm bummed that I never had a chance to check out the 'farmer's market' they had going on in the Clio area for a few years.

And I would agree with the quality going down. I've seen some flower in dispensaries that I wouldn't buy because of the quality not being up to par. That's the flower that's usually marked as a 'sale' item. But I've purchased flower from a dispensary labeled as 'top shelf' and been majorly disappointed in the quality. Looked pretty but no punch.

That said; I've also seen an unscrupulous caregiver pass off inferior product to his patient. This patient relies solely on him for her meds and does not use a dispensary. I think he sold her what he can't offload to the dispensaries.

On another note; I've noticed the dispensaries are starting to have 'sales' on their top shelf flower with prices that are lower than they've advertised before. I'm wondering if they're starting to de-stock already (in lieu of Dec. 15th).

I've never bought buds from a dispensary, and now they're shut down near me anyway. (gaylord area) I used to buy a little concentrate before I made rosin. But the quality of what I've seen and bought was subpar.

I'm a caregiver, but more than that a patient activist, so more choices for patients is a good thing. As a small time grower I can only provide so much, and I don't feel threatened by competition.

I suspect tho, when we have state legal dispensaries, it will take a while to work out quality and prices. If I can get high end meds for reasonable prices I'll give up caregiving. I havn't had a vacation since I started growing indoors in 2009. But I'm not going anywhere yet.
 
Oh! Looky what just came in on my feed!

Michigan: Medical marijuana dispensaries can stay open — for now

Kathleen Gray, Detroit Free Press Lansing BureauPublished 2:55 p.m. ET Nov. 1, 2017

After receiving hundreds of complaints from medical marijuana card holders that they would be without the product they need for their health for an extended period of time, the state Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs reversed itself Wednesday and decided to let dispensaries stay open during the licensing process.

The department had come up with a ruling in September that dispensaries should close by Dec. 15, which is the day that applications for five categories of licenses become available, or risk losing their chances of getting one of the lucrative licenses.

But medical marijuana cardholders — more than 272,000 in Michigan — worried that the lapse of time between applications and licenses being awarded by the state early next year would leave many of them without access to the product they use to treat a variety of ailments from cancer to epilepsy.

So the state approved an emergency rule Wednesday that will allow existing dispensaries that have gone through an approval process in the community where they operate to stay open while they go through the state licensing process.


“Patient input played a big factor,” said Andrew Brisbo, director of the state’s Bureau of Medical Marijuana Regulation. “When we looked at the feedback, especially from people with the greatest difficulty of access, we wanted to ensure that those folks would have access to their medicine.”

The ruling goes against the feelings of two members of the Michigan Medical Marijuana Licensing Board — retired Michigan State Police officer Don Bailey and chairman Rick Johnson — who wanted the dispensaries to shut down even sooner than Dec. 15.

But Brisbo said board members were made aware of the ruling and would honor its impact.

"Administrative rules have the effect of law, and the board can’t make decisions outside the confines of the rules," he said.


With the Dec. 15 deadline looming, legislators in both the House and Senate had proposed legislation that would have allowed dispensaries to stay open during the transition to the fully regulated market. But those bills only got one hearing and no vote.

“We’re really excited that the department is working to allow patients to continue accesssing medicine in a safe way during the transition period,” said Sen. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights, one of the sponsors of the bill. “It doesn’t matter if it’s a legislative fix or emergency rules. We’re just in favor of something that’s going to guarantee safe access.

Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge, another sponsor of the legislation, said after hearing from medical marijuana patients that he was all in favor of allowing dispensaries to stay open.

“Certainly, I want dispensaries to follow the law and get licensing, but there does need to be a transition period and as the representative of the Epilepsy Foundation stated at our hearing, it’s a matter of life and death for some of these people,” he said.

The medical pot shops that do stay open won't be guaranteed a license from the state, even if they have the blessing of their local community. But the fact that they continue to operate during the licensing process won't hurt their chances for a license.

Some of the dispensaries that have been operating with permission from their communities had closed down when LARA first came out with the advisory that they should shut down by Dec. 15.

Amir Makled, an attorney representing Advanced Wellness in Detroit, was thrilled by the news. The Detroit dispensary shut down in September after the initial rule came out because the owners didn’t want to jeopardize their chance at a license.

“It had a significant impact on them and their patients. They had to cover all of their costs for their building out of pocket,” Makled said. “And every one of their patients were in a real bind.”

Advanced Wellness has three dispensaries in Detroit, but only one of them had gotten approval from the city to operate. So that one on Warren will reopen and the other two will remain closed until they can get approval for a license.


There are dispensaries operating all over the state, including Detroit, Lansing, Ypsilanti, Ann Arbor and Flint. But other dispensaries, especially in northern Michigan, have shut down after police raided the facilities. Eight facilities were told to shut down last month by the Grand Traverse County Prosecutor's Office after a sting operation by a narcotics enforcement team led by Michigan State Police.

The applications for five categories of licenses — growers, processors, testers, secure transporters and dispensaries — will be available from the state on Dec. 15. The Michigan Medical Marijuana Licensing Board will begin awarding licenses early next year.
Outstanding, Mom. Restores some of my faith in the intelligence and compassion of humanity
 
@momofthegoons - what do you think about this? Not much detail on how this test ensures that results are only reflect a short period of time vice regular tests for metabolites that can stay in your system for a month or more. Any idea?

Michigan cops will use mouth swab tests to weed out drugged drivers

The Great Lake State is joining Colorado and California in use of the new time-sensitive drug detection tool.

A handful of Michigan State Police officers added a new piece of technology to their crime fighting tool belts yesterday, as the state began a year-long pilot program focused on curbing instances of drugged driving.

According to Detroit’s ABC affiliate, officers in the pilot program with “highly specified training” in identifying drugged drivers have now been equipped with mouth swab tests that can detect recent cannabis use, as well as cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, ecstasy and other illicit substances.

Unlike standard blood and urine tests that detect marijuana ingested up to a month before the sample was taken, a number of different mouth swab purveyors claim to detect the immediate presence of cannabis, giving police a better indication as to whether a suspect is actually intoxicated at the time of the traffic stop.

In response to what local police say has been a significant increase in drugged driving incidents and fatalities over the past few years, Michigan state cops in five counties have now been given Alere DDS2-brand oral swabbing devices.

A report from the Michigan State Police claims drugged driving fatalities increased 32 percent between 2015 - 2016, from 179 deaths in 2015 to 236 fatal crashes last year.

Like the use of cannabis-specific breathalyzers and other similar mouth swabs, Michigan’s pilot program is the newest in a series of initiatives around the country, trying to find a scaleable solution to the often-undetectable issue of driving under the influence of drugs.

In Colorado, fears from highway safety and public health experts lead to a ongoing three-year pilot program, enlisting 125 State Troopers to test five separate mouth swabbing devices in an attempt to hash out which product could best serve CO cops.

Similarly, California highway cops have been using a mouth swab test to detect marijuana since this summer, when a bill included in the state’s fiscal budget provided funds for the state-of-the-art policing tool.

Like tests for drunk driving, police officials in Michigan say they will only test drivers that they observe driving erratically, or who appear to be under the influence of drugs.

“Some of the concerns were we were going to just start randomly testing people, and that’s not the case,” Michigan State Police First Lt. Michael Shaw told Michigan’s WWJ Newsradio 950. “There’s still going to be probable cause for a traffic stop — just like it was….This is just an added component to the probable cause portion of it.”

If a driver refuses to partake in the officer requested mouth swab test, they will be subject to a civil infraction, just like drivers that refuse drunk driving tests.

The five municipalities participating in the drug testing pilot program include Berrien, Delta, Kent, St. Clair and Washtenaw counties.
 
what do you think about this? Not much detail on how this test ensures that results are only reflect a short period of time vice regular tests for metabolites that can stay in your system for a month or more. Any idea?
Well.... I'm not optimistic. Especially since it's the Michigan State Police that are doing these tests. They were the ones who were falsifying the tests on concentrates seized and saying that they were all synthetic and thereby illegal.

I saw this map in IG this week of the danger zones for this testing:

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