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ataxian said:
What UNIVERSITY did you get your Medical Degree?
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Shown the door while working on a PhD thesis at the University of Pennsylvania. Not a very successful scientist, experiments rarely worked. Studied regulation of viral gene expression. A favorite class was "Classical Papers in Genetics," where we read and discussed the original reports of groundbreaking discoveries through history. Another was population genetics with Warren Ewing. All math - we started with the simple Hardy-Weinberg equation and derived all of population genetics from it. If your thoughts wandered for even a few seconds, the rest of the class would be incomprehensible. Good times.
 
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Shown the door while working on a PhD thesis at the University of Pennsylvania. Not a very successful scientist, experiments rarely worked. Studied regulation of viral gene expression. A favorite class was "Classical Papers in Genetics," where we read and discussed the original reports of groundbreaking discoveries through history. Another was population genetics with Warren Ewing. All math - we started with the simple Hardy-Weinberg equation and derived all of population genetics from it. If your thoughts wandered for even a few seconds, the rest of the class would be incomprehensible. Good times.
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I studied on the western coast of CALIFORNIA and got my degree in KANSAS?
My DAD was a feeling optimistic thinker!
I was a little self absorbed factual dude.
Most of my cohort’s got there degree’s in HAWAII?
CALIFORNIA my friend’s from LOS ANGLES were trust funder’s and were in a false reality compared to the general population!
Gold BLONDE hair was standard for the location?
When I was in Europe it was difficult to fit in!
MATHEMATICS of my friend’s there blew me away how easy it was for them?
I learned SUPER CAL before LOTUS then EXCELL to be compatible with human’s at work!
Most of my professors in EUROPE smoked CANNABIS while enjoying hard booze or wine or beer.
The guy’s from North Africa consumed HASH however INDIA HASH was my preference?
Most people drank booze in Europe?
I liked CALIFORNIA the most for consumption!
One professor who wrote many book’s I have read claimed : “Your birthplace will influence you’re perception”!
OXFORD, ENGLAND is where he taught!
 
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Can we step back and civilly discuss the politicization of this issue from a perspective that grants the validity of competing perceptions? If not, feel free to move or delete.

Bret Stephens is a conservative, albeit of the William F. Buckley Jr. persuasion. He misses the essential point that the perceived trade-off between public health and economic recovery is false, but it's not about reason, it's about perception. From this perspective, the pandemic, far from forging unity in opposition of a common enemy, was certain to stoke division, just as climate change does. It's not a hopeful perspective - ultimately, we're doomed - but at least we can march into extinction hand-in-hand, with our eyes wide open.

It’s the Remote Against the Exposed
Those facing the greatest dangers will decide the outcome.

By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
May 15, 2020

...37 percent of jobs in the U.S. can be performed from home. The Remote are, disproportionately, knowledge workers, mostly well educated, generally well paid...

That leaves the other roughly two-thirds. Call them “Exposed.” They include everyone — shop owner, waiter, cabdriver, sales associate, factory worker, nanny, flight attendant, and so on — for whom physical presence is a job requirement. They are, typically, less well educated, less well paid.

For the Remote, the lockdowns of the past two months have been stressful. For the Exposed, they have been catastrophic. For the Remote, another few weeks of lockdown is an irritant. For the Exposed, whose jobs are disappearing by the millions every week, it is a terror. For the Remote, Covid-19 is the grave new risk. For the exposed, it’s one of several...

The people making so many of the key decisions on how and when the lockdowns end (or may be resumed) are not themselves members of the Exposed class. When Governor Whitmer joined ABC’s “The View” from what looked like a comfortable home to describe some anti-lockdown demonstrators as “racist and misogynistic,” she reminded voters of the yawning gulf between the Remote and the Exposed...

People don’t take kindly to being scolded by those they blame for messing up their lives in the name of some greater good. Those who think the world can be run by remote control will have their folly exposed to failure by those who know it can’t.
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Can we step back and civilly discuss this politicization of this issue from a perspective that grants the validity of competing perceptions? If not, feel free to move or delete.

Bret Stephens is a conservative, albeit of the William F. Buckley Jr. persuasion. He misses the essential point that the perceived trade-off between public health and economic recovery is false, but it's not about reason, it's about perception. From this perspective, the pandemic, far from forging unity in opposition of a common enemy, was certain to stoke division, just as climate change does. It's not a hopeful perspective - ultimately, we're doomed - but at least we can march into extinction hand-in-hand, with our eyes wide open.

It’s the Remote Against the Exposed
Those facing the greatest dangers will decide the outcome.

By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
May 15, 2020
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I really like William and thank you for jogging my memory!
Stoked my mind still work’s?
ROSIN is so good for one’s mind?
 
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Can we step back and civilly discuss the politicization of this issue
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I, for one, certainly hope not....civilly or otherwise.
 
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Even when this mind did work, it was never in the same league as WBF's.

A famous battle with Chomsky:


How did we lose the consideration that permitted such enlightened discourse?
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This editor from England was working for a magazine I like introduced me to Buckley’s interview’s.
Norm from MIT is of a mind that will be missed!
 
Madri-Gal said:
I never thought thread would become so difficult to find, or yeast for that matter. Thought I had the baking and sewing covered.
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I haven’t worked in year’s so I’m out of touch with how human’s precise society work’s ?
2-b a wife must be hard?
2-b a spouse must b hard?
Need more ROSIN!
Got some dried yeast 2 make bagette? (Like to make sweet stuff however my wife is a heAlth nut and exercise’s a lot)
Just get super loaded and live like it’s 1999?
MEDICATED is the term for political correct stoner’s!
Not correct just different (Maybe)?
 
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ataxian said:
I haven’t worked in year’s so I’m out of touch with how human’s precise society work’s ?
2-b a wife must be hard?
2-b a spouse must b hard?
Need more ROSIN!
Got some dried yeast 2 make bagette? (Like to make sweet stuff however my wife is a heAlth nut and exercise’s a lot)
Just get super loaded and live like it’s 1999?
MEDICATED is the term for political correct stoner’s!
Not correct just different (Maybe)?
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I've always been able to bake, sew. Not being able to find yeast or thread was an unexpected upending of what I thought I knew. Now the biggest skill to have is the ability to adapt. So now, soda bread and order masks online.
I have no idea about being a wife or spouse. I can manage single o.k., but I never met fine fellas, such as yourself @ataxian. Your wife is a fortunate woman to have you.
 
Madri-Gal said:
I've always been able to bake, sew. Not being able to find yeast or thread was an unexpected upending of what I thought I knew. Now the biggest skill to have is the ability to adapt. So now, soda bread and order masks online.
I have no idea about being a wife or spouse. I can manage single o.k., but I never met fine fellas, such as yourself @ataxian. Your wife is a fortunate woman to have you.
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This 19 virus’s is having a change for some of us.
I am a old sckool dude from a fancy life not normal 4 everybody?
Stoner after the hippie culture.
Read as a kid and impressed by people who read faster than I?
Sport’s & babe’s was all that mattered?
I was very lucky to experience a decent life?
Spoiled however learning how to not be?
I love people a lot however most take it the wrong way?
One of many imperfection’s I have is I don’t forget event’s?
Pot, marijuana, pakalolo, stash, weed was free and grew wild near the beach I played in?
My brother surf’s in front of his house!
I have a strange perspective about thing’s?
Shoutout 2 @momofthegoons 4 this site 2-rant our thought’s!
 
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Can we step back and civilly discuss the politicization of this issue from a perspective that grants the validity of competing perceptions? If not, feel free to move or delete.
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I don't think that is a good idea. As a forum we are apolitical unless it is discussing regulations/laws in the appropriate forum thread.

COVID19 knows no political affiliation or perspective. It is an equal opportunity killer.

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Stevenski said:
I don't think that is a good idea. As a forum we are apolitical unless it is discussing regulations/laws in the appropriate forum thread.

COVID19 knows no political affiliation or perspective. It is an equal opportunity killer.
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Understood, but disappointed. Agree that COVID shouldn't be politicized, but it has and in the US, it was probably inevitable. There is a great deal of genuine uncertainty that needs to be discussed, though not here. It's difficult to have those discussions when people don't agree on even the basic facts.

Hopefully, COVID's rebound in a few weeks won't be as bad as expected, which is entirely possible. Until then...
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Can't resist celebrating Australia's success in rising above divisions.

Did the Coronavirus Kill Ideology in Australia?
How a government both sectarian and divisive learned (briefly) to become inclusive.

By Richard Flanagan
Mr. Flanagan is a novelist.
May 18, 2020, 2:07 a.m. ET

Mr. Morrison’s government was climate-denying, globalism-bashing and displayed an increasingly authoritarian bent...

Having seen this almost impossibly low bar set for government action, many Australians have felt relief tinged with astonishment knowing that their country is today among the world’s most successful in dealing with the coronavirus epidemic.

As of Monday morning, Australia, with its 25.5 million people, had recorded a total of 7,054 infections and 99 deaths, according to Worldometers. That’s 277 infections and four deaths for every million people. In the United States, the per capita figures were 4,619 infections and 275 deaths per million by Monday; in Britain, 3,592 infections and 511 deaths per million.

...the former prime minister John Howard... counseled Mr. Morrison and Mr. Frydenberg that “there’s no ideological constraints at times like this.” ...Mr. Morrison went so far as to declare: “Today is not about ideologies. We checked those at the door.”

...things once deemed fantastical became commonplace. Scientists, whom Mr. Morrison’s party has derided for over a decade, were respectfully asked for their views about the novel coronavirus and, more remarkable still, these views were acted on and amplified. Mr. Morrison dismissed the idea of trying to build herd immunity among the population, calling it a “death sentence.”

The economic response was as extraordinary. Civil servants who had been told they existed to serve politics and politicians also found their expert advice heeded. A huge relief package of direct fiscal stimulus was rolled out, amounting to 10.6 percent of the country’s gross domestic product — second only in the world to Qatar’s (13 percent). Unemployment benefits were doubled, a generous (though not universal) program of wage subsidy was introduced and child care was made free — all measures that only a few months ago Mr. Morrison’s party would have pilloried as dangerous socialism...

As a consequence of the stimulus, the Australian economy is not expected to plumb the catastrophic depths foreseen for the United States or Europe. The unemployment rate rose to 6.2 percent in April. The Reserve Bank of Australia has predicted that it will peak at 10 percent in June and slowly decline to 6.5 percent by June 2022. While these sad statistics hide a larger tragedy, they still are preferable to those in the United States, where unemployment hit 14.7 percent last month and, according to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, may have reached 25 percent.

...And if ideology, and the culture wars, are nothing when everything is at stake, the inevitable question arises: Did they ever mean anything at all?

... these remarkable few months will remain a rebuke to the murderous madness of ruling through division, a testament of hope to all that can be achieved when ideology is ditched.

Presented with growing doubts about democracy’s ability to deal with the pandemic on the one hand, and the seeming ability of a totalitarian China to address the crisis on the other, Australia unexpectedly, if only briefly, returned to its best traditions of communality and fairness.
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Disrupt said:
Understood, but disappointed. Agree that COVID shouldn't be politicized, but it has and in the US, it was probably inevitable. There is a great deal of genuine uncertainty that needs to be discussed, though not here. It's difficult to have those discussions when people don't agree on even the basic facts.

Hopefully, COVID's rebound in a few weeks won't be as bad as expected, which is entirely possible. Until then...
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Can't resist celebrating Australia's success in rising above divisions.

Did the Coronavirus Kill Ideology in Australia?
How a government both sectarian and divisive learned (briefly) to become inclusive.

By Richard Flanagan
Mr. Flanagan is a novelist.
May 18, 2020, 2:07 a.m. ET
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Hey man where R-U at?
Right here man!
 
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