Vitolo
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In my opinion, Priests are the least trustworthy, and most motivated to bend the truth among the above mentioned individuals, in my view.
Anything that I post is my opinion, and is not ever intended as an invitation for debate.
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Anything that I post is my opinion, and is not ever intended as an invitation for debate.
Marlon Rando
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Perhaps we stop calling the mrna jab a Vax, It is an 'Experimental' trial injection.
Dr. Mercola discusses with Dr. Mikovits
The End of Truth: A Bill That Suppresses Opposing Views
A California bill is now threatening to strip doctors of their licenses if they express views that the state does not agree with. What's next for us?
Un altro infermiere muore nel sonno. "Infarto". Aveva fatto la seconda dose di vaccino - Secondo Piano News
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arb
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Are you saying you don't want any type of direct response or reply unless it is in agreement with whatever your stated belief is?
I don't wanna cross any boundaries and inadvertently offend you.
Vitolo
Vaporist
The comment you quoted is self explanatory.
Are you actually saying that for you to understand so elementary a comment
that it requires dissection, rumination, digestion and analysis?
I am saying 2 things:
Are you actually saying that for you to understand so elementary a comment
that it requires dissection, rumination, digestion and analysis?
I am saying 2 things:
- What I post is my opinion.
- My opinion is not ever intended as an invitation for debate.
I agree. Please keep in mind I'm not saying to take any path. I'm just putting it out there. Any can feel free to disagree. We are all responsible for our own well being.
Just because it worked for me doesn't in any way mean it will work for you at this point. WE ARE TALKING LIFE & DEATH A reporter / author of an article, I would think, should give reason for not trying something that has no known side effects in light of this. Especially when reasonable people in the field are saying positive things. Otherwise we need to know their motivation to do differently.
What frustrates me is when an issue is not dealt with honestly by some author or reporter. They state things from an obvious bias. Giving one existing report against many others that say different. I'm not pushing any idea. I wish for people to live their lives in peace. If a doctor or one in science is given to making misleading statements say so & give an instance where this happened.
I dont understand the distinction between doctors & science. I would say science proves nothing except what happened under a given circumstance at a specific time.
Disrupt, what we believe regarding anything has to have a starting point a foundation, if you will. Your question regarding who to believe or in essence how we establish the truth of the matter seems to say we cannot know this. Now with this topic this is in essence true. Simply because NO ONE KNOWS.
However why would I take the advice of a carpenter as the gold standard vs a mechanic when it comes to my truck not running right. Please correct me if I dont understand correctly.... Jeff
felvapes
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This is getting boring and my popcorn is getting soggy
Circles and pseudo intelligence and shit
I'm gonna run away to tazzy soon to hide with @LesPlenty
Circles and pseudo intelligence and shit
I'm gonna run away to tazzy soon to hide with @LesPlenty
What you're describing sounds like an observation. Science is a method to use that observation of what did happen in a particular case to correctly predict what will happen in relevantly similar cases. Proof is out of reach, prediction is the best we can do.
Times are changing, but basic scholarship still goes a long way. Find the source articles. Where were they published? Were they peer-reviewed? Who are the authors? If something doesn't make sense, look up the reference. The internet make this as easy as it can possibly be. (Imagine physically moving your body to a library every time you needed to look something up.
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CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
Folks can say whatever they want online. Look at us here. People are exhausted and want solutions so its easy for people to believe anything. Remember cleaning out the inside of your body with Lysol? People actually felt desperate enough to do that! We have to be careful what we put out there. We have heard conspiracy theories for the last year along with lies from those we should have been able to believe. It’s any wonder people are believing crazy stuff!
In my area the virus count is down by 100% over the last few weeks. Our gyms, restaurants are at 25% and doing call in orders. I’m going to have my second vaccine the end of this month. I continue to wear two masks and stay 6 ft apart. Our schools have opened in hybrid fashion to keep the children apart. - 50% in elementary schools at one time, about 10 to a classroom.
There seems to be glimmers of progress but with the new variations to the virus it looks like maybe a booster will be required year after year.
When I look online for info I consider the source.
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Also onlly 45 people died yesterday in my state due to covid.
In my area the virus count is down by 100% over the last few weeks. Our gyms, restaurants are at 25% and doing call in orders. I’m going to have my second vaccine the end of this month. I continue to wear two masks and stay 6 ft apart. Our schools have opened in hybrid fashion to keep the children apart. - 50% in elementary schools at one time, about 10 to a classroom.
There seems to be glimmers of progress but with the new variations to the virus it looks like maybe a booster will be required year after year.
When I look online for info I consider the source.
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Also onlly 45 people died yesterday in my state due to covid.
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Vitolo
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You have a very sensible attitude, devoid of bullshit and with open eyes.
Thanks for a great post!
I guess critical thinking is dead 
@CarolKing
so what’s your definition of a conspiracy theory?
Anything that differs from whatever source you get your news from?
@CarolKing
so what’s your definition of a conspiracy theory?
Anything that differs from whatever source you get your news from?
Exactly, just when it's most needed.I guess critical thinking is dead
Regarding the definition of a conspiracy theory, wherever you get your news, you should always be able to do as above (well, and below):
Otherwise, you have no real basis for believing it. Reputable journalists source their work, and their sources hold up to scrutiny. You may disagree with an interpretation, but the sources will be of similarly high quality. Most of us, across politics, don't do this enough. We're lazy so we trust. We trust more and more until we forget that knowledge doesn't come from people, it comes in spite of us, when we step out of its way and observe without bias or prejudice. Critical thinking dies and epistemic crisis begins.
Vitolo
Vaporist
Critical Thinking: the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgment.I guess critical thinking is dead
I feel that the posts above do represent fine examples of critical thinking at it's best.
Formation of an objective analysis and evaluation to form an opinion, without simply jumping on the
"Somebody Done Somebody Wrong" bandwagon.
Not living in a state of perpetual suspicion, and dissatisfaction does not mean there is absence of critical thinking.
It means just the opposite.
Presentation of feelings of a cooperative nature, and lack of disenchantment and blame to assign are also
the results of critical thinking.
Not joining others in feeling "conspired against", is also not a lack of critical thinking....
... just a sign of well adjusted adulthood and contentment.
Some people are just not happy, or feel incomplete if others do not join them in their despair, paranoia, suspicion and "dissatisfaction"!
A conspiracy theory: an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more logical and probable.
Conspiracy theories are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and for it are re-interpreted as evidence of it's truth.
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CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
I stated one of the conspiracy theories - Lysol. Where did that come from? I’m not going to answer that one because we all know. Consider the source! No I don’t expect everyone to believe what I do. I choose reputable sources - like science from people that know what they are talking about. The University of WA is one of my sources.I guess critical thinking is dead
@CarolKing
so what’s your definition of a conspiracy theory?
Anything that differs from whatever source you get your news from?
Marlon Rando
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Long term mask wearing may contribute to advanced stage Lung Cancer.
Dr. FAUSTUS
Is quoted ( not in this article) “There’s nothing wrong with people wearing two masks. I often myself wear two masks,”
Yea sure let's increase our CO2 intake by 10,000+ PPM.
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humansarefree.com
Is quoted ( not in this article) “There’s nothing wrong with people wearing two masks. I often myself wear two masks,”
Yea sure let's increase our CO2 intake by 10,000+ PPM.
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CarolKing
Always in search of the perfect vaporizer
Long term mask wearing may contribute to advanced stage Lung Cancer.
Dr. FAUSTUSAccount Suspended
humansarefree.com
Is quoted “There’s nothing wrong with people wearing two masks. I often myself wear two masks,”
Yea sure let's increase our CO2 intake by 10,000+ PPM.
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Humans Are Free
Humans Are Free, a.k.a. Humans Be Free, is a webshite that promotes pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, and other miscellaneous bullshit. Whenever these guys say "scientifically proven", you can bet that it's wrong. They have many insane editors, including (surprise) Mike Adams.
Vitolo
Vaporist
And here's a couple that says long term mask wearing is safe.
www.reuters.com
Fact check: Wearing masks does not cause cancer
Social media users have been sharing content online that claims wearing a face mask causes cancer due to oxygen deficiency. This claim is false.
www.reuters.com
Baron23
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Well, we sure have heard a lot of something...that's for sure.
Did you perhaps mean 10% or 50% because if down 100% then there is zero virus in your area???
Well I agree with Couric's friend...not Couric, the junior brain washer wannabe...but her friend who said to her "there is no journalism anymore, just advocacy". I find this to be utterly true in recent times.
So....the process of peer reviews is good but not perfect. I'm not at all sure that there is any better way to do it and I do believe that peer reviewed science is probably the most sound and valid information we have. But its not perfect.
The simple fact is that scientists...and editors of scientific journals...as just as venal as the rest of us and things like grant money, tenure, reputation, prestige, pride, bias, and absolutely conflict of interest come into play in scientific review as well as all other human endeavors.
I was just reading an article the other day about how an adult physics student tripped upon absolutely flawed application of mathematics to derive some stupid, to two decimal places, ratio constant of positive vs negative thought's impact on thriving. And, the subject matter editor of the publication was also a co-author. AND, once the flaw was defined and forwarded to the publication they had a battle royal on their hands as the managing editor was loath to retract a "peer reviewed" published article. The critics did prevail but to get their counter article published they needed to very much water down their characterizations and we really have no idea how common such a situation is.
But, it is the best that we have and I personally do not know of a better system.
Additionally, it is as valuable to disprove a theory...perhaps even more valuable....than to prove a theory. So, while science does not necessarily provide facts (defined as something known to exist or to have happened) or proof, it does very often either provide proof or provide refutation of proof of a postulated theory.
Have fun guys.
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