Okay full melt that's just made of cold-processed trichrome heads right? Do you get full-spectrum effects from that? It seems to me that may be more of a head high, but keif usually gets me to sleep in a pinch wtf do I know.
Yup, full melt is just whole trichome glands. The way that I process, the glands are never breached, they stay whole. In this way, the resin inside is preserved that also keeps very well in storage. This is as true a representation of the original resin from the capitate stalked and sessile trichomes as one can find. These trichomes are not all of the resin glands found on the plant, but are the vast majority of glands found on the flowers itself. The inferior flavor of oil extractions (especially from trim!) to full melt is in part because full melt is only made from the tastier types of glands mentioned above and the relatively small, considerably worse tasting 'bulbous trichomes' are left behind on the leaves.
Full melt can be processed in ways that gives it more of a body effect. If you press it with the right amount of heat, you can retain the headiness, barely alter the flavor and also add more body effect. Full melt, even when not pressed like this will still be wonderful for sleep/body effects if you have the right terp profile for these purposes, this is because full melt preserves those terps incredibly well!
I'm immersed in concentrates now. Hard to find pure indicas still, and after this most recent development I was a bit put off. I got back from a long day/drive last night with a couple more g's of the best I could find plus a pen and some more tasty stuff I'm putting aside for now. The pen was supposed to be the most potent. It has oil in a disposable atomizer; I heated it up a bit to dissolve the 'skin' as instructed and proceeded to try for a dose. The slim battery I paid an extra $10 for to avoid issues has three heat settings, and after trying medium a few times without success I put it on high, and holy moly. I put it on low after that but I was wondering if I did any damage on high because this thing taste like butane/chemicals burnt? Now I can see that it needs a higher setting just to get going but medium seems to suffice.
As my friend
@Baron23 says, these disposable carts are frequently made of terrible materials. It may be that something in the cart itself (not the oil) is giving you the nasty taste you speak of. There could also be nasty polymerized and overcooked resin stuck on the wick in your cart. The disposables are not something I fuck with for a number of reasons, this is one of them.
Next I had the DC V3 atomizer pretty gunked up, so I unscrewed it and put on the new saionara atomizer. It came with a 'black ceramic kanthal coil' installed in it so that's what I tried first. Keep in mind that I barely have a clue about all the mod settings but am pretty sure I'm within functional parameters. I burned it off, it went red hot while doing so then gave me a monster hit but it tasted at least as bad as the dispose-a-pen. This was with some shatter that I had decent results with before on my enail, so today I deep cleaned my sic dish because I had been neglecting that too, and the same shatter tasted fine. That's a relief because as I said I have two grams of it. So I need to do some V3 maintence and I can't wait to try any other coil in the saionara; I still have the round ceramic dish like the V3 uses and the dual quartz rods.
Yup red hot will ensure that you have awful taste as you say lol
It is definitely a matter of the pens, I've had some dreadful experiences with some of these kinds of pens recently myself. I tried Sourcevapes' quartz dual coils for the first time recently at low temp and it tasted like fucking poison. The oil I was using is out of this world stuff that I've shared photos of here before, suffice to say it tastes wonderful on my enail! I find that at least 6/10 oil pen carts that I have used taste hideous like this! I really hate most pens out there.
There's also the miracle coils, I think I will grab a
5-pack of those since I didn't get any. Unless that ceramic kanthal one needs some kind of special seasoning procedure I don't ever want to use it again! From further research I probably burnt the load, looking at the
reviews it seems very well appreciated so I need to check my mod. I'll try and sip further from that pen atomizer, but based on the difference I'm tasting with the shatter I may bust it open with a hammer so I can dab what's inside properly! I may try another pen from a different lab I have in mind in the future, but not from these guys. Sigh. I can see why you have shunned this game but I think there may be some good in it somewhere, so I will keep at it.
Please do keep at it brother. As you'll note from my comments above, I've kept looking at all of the new pens on offer recently. Still have not found 'the one' yet. No pen that I've used meets my needs yet and the experience is so inferior to my e-nails that I feel like I'm wasting my medicine!
Now, taste....personally its not my top criteria...at ALL. I'm looking for effects with an acceptable taste so the experience is pleasant. But if all MJ vapor tasted like Cod Liver Oil I would still medicate with it. Its sort of like Scotch whiskey to me. People go on and on about how great some high end single malt or another tastes. But it don't taste like ice cream and I doubt if very many enthusiasts would drink the stuff if it had no alcohol (and hence no effect). So, with Scotch and MJ, I want the effects and the better it tastes the more palatable the experience. I like the taste of good MJ. I like the taste of good scotch. I wouldn't consume either without the active ingredients being present for the effect.
In another world where I didn't need MMJ for medical reasons, I would actually probably consume MJ infused products (food though if it were just for taste) for the flavor alone. I love the taste of cannabis. However, IRL that is a happy coincidence. As with yourself, I am in it for the medically useful effects that I get. The flavor is just gravy ;)
I don't like any of the Source 4 carts except for the titanium and quartz buckets (which are good, and work with full melt unlike any other pen!!!!!). I haven't used the terra 2 though, which does look great. The original terra was fucking terrible, known issues which is why we have the terra 2 now
I cannot fathom why people use quartz coil based atomizers, my experience with this at the lowest possible temp was absolutely awful. Tasted like too-hot quartz nail dabs and oil spattered about everywhere despite my gentle draw. I am not at all a fan of Source's coil based offerings. The quartz plus atomizer also functions incredibly shittily and seemed to just make a bunch of my errl disappear without giving flavor (except for a slight overcooked burned electronic flavor), nor clouds, nor effect.
I joke a lot however it is a cover up my pain.
You know I love CANNABIS colas.
Also I like CONCENTRATES.
Brother if it helps you feel better, you keep on joking - we enjoy your posts here always
I'm hoping that you have as many colas and concentrates as you could possibly want, my friend! Couldn't agree with you more either: There's nothing better than colas and concentrates!
I used pens at first however MODS I like alot.
RBT's TANK'S with my own COIL's installed.
100 watts - 200 watts = MODS
22mm - 30mm TANKS
TIGER COILS or CLAPTON + fitted with JAPANESE ORGANIC COTTON (wicks)
It sounds like you use higher quality tanks and maintain them appropriately. This is definitely the best case scenario for using ecig style tanks for cannabis
I have VAS for a FLOWER POT set-up FLOWERS/WAX + SIC NAIL (
@herbivore21 recommends)
That would be such a wonderful combination for you man! You might even end up liking the flower pot more than your evo? I know I found that I preferred that kind of vape to my own evo, even if the evo is a wonderful vape (one of the best!) :) The SiC halo with electric heat would be heavenly for your concentrate needs, and I'm sure your wife will appreciate that you don't need a torch
I hope you get your hands on these really soon man! Both are very reliable ways for medical users to be able to dose as much as they need very quickly
@ataxian - thank your lucky stars that most people are MUCH more nice than I. I just like you a lot
Oh you guys! Glad to see some of my favorite people around these parts getting along so well
I bought more glass today for pleasure not need so next week?
Oh what new glass did you get my friend?
Please do let us all know of your thoughts when you've got your hands on the Sic Halo and flowerpot! If you need any assistance setting them up or using them when they arrive, please do message me man. I'll make time wherever possible to assist a stand up guy like yourself!
All I know is that when I was at another (more familiar) dispensary I mentioned the pen I purchased to them, and they showed me their version (kind of) as they were out of it. That's the one I want to try as it's from my favorite lab so far. We got into a conversation about what cartridge works with what battery, and she showed me that while their carts might screw into other batteries, not to mix and match because (for example) when their cart was used with the battery I bought, the wick part gets pushed in too far rendering the cartridge inoperable. The wick she showed me was fiber, for a different but similar system. I think that what she showed me was an empty cart, which means yes they're rebuildable.
edit: when I figure out what this other pen system is I will report back, because it's oos I can't find it atm.
Ecig carts require a staggering amount of know-how don't they bro!? It is as complicated as cannabis vaporizers and then some