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Small children don’t get really sick with covid, as I understand they don’t have the protein that the virus attaches to. Not sure if I have that right but that is what I understand from what I seen and read. Why test the vaccine right now on small children or pregnant women.
Thanks to you guys I know what FFS means.:angel2:
 
THE COVID CANCEL CULUTRE QUIZ SHOW

Hi, everybody. I’m Bob Torquemada, host of the new COVID Cancel Culture Quiz Show. And here’s our first contestant tonight, Mike, a gym owner from New Jersey. Are you ready to play our game, Mike?

I’m ready, Bob.

Good. I have to warn you, Mike. So far, no contestant has won a prize. Instead, they’ve had to endure penalties for losing. So let’s get started. I’m going to present you with four situations designed to limit your individual freedom. You have to explain why these situations aren’t legitimate. Ready?

Ready.

The first one is: You make a remark to a college student, and she says, “I’m triggered.” She’s trying to limit your freedom of speech. How do you respond?

Well, Bob, let’s say I’m a student, too, and I’m in the cafeteria standing in line to get my food. She’s working behind the counter. I say, “I’ll have the burger and fries.” She looks horrified and says, “I’m triggered. ‘BURGER AND FRIES’ makes me feel anxious.” But that’s ridiculous. It makes no sense. I’m free to order my food. There’s no rational cause and effect relationship between my request and her reaction.

Good enough, Mike. That’s acceptable. Here’s the second situation. You’re walking down the street and six people wearing masks come up to you and scream, “You’re white! Whiteness is racist! Get off the street!”

Bob, first of all, these people are trying to tell me I can’t walk on the street. That’s certainly limiting my freedom. And second, having white skin doesn’t make me racist. There’s no automatic cause and effect relationship between having white skin and being racist.

No major flaws in your position, Mike. You advance to the third round. A group in your town is claiming that owning a business and making a profit is evil. You own a store. How do you respond?

Bob, again, this would be an attempt to limit my freedom by telling me I have no right to own a business because it’s some sort of crime. While it’s true that some corporations are crooked, the basic fact of owning a business and having employees and paying their salaries is completely legitimate. Making a profit is legit, too. Otherwise, how am I going to pay those salaries? Ambition to make a profit, in and of itself, is entirely reasonable.

A passable answer, Mike. Now here’s the fourth situation. There is a declared pandemic. You’re told a virus is attacking the world. You have to wear a mask, keep your distance from other people, stay indoors, close your business, and wait for the governor of your state to lift the COVID restrictions. When the vaccine is available, you have to take it, in order to earn an immunity certificate, which lets you travel, enter certain venues, and mingle with others openly.

Okay, Bob. First of all, did researchers really prove this virus exists? They’re not providing evidence. They claim they’ve isolated the virus, but what they really mean is, they have the virus in a soup, in a dish in the lab, mixed together with all sorts of other material. There is no proof the virus is actually in the dish.

Sorry, Mike, that’s not going to fly. Many studies claim the virus has been isolated.

Yes, Bob, but those studies are twisting the meaning of “isolated.”

No. Your answer is unacceptable. Everybody knows you’re wrong. Anything else?

Absolutely, Bob. When researchers claim they’ve sequenced the genetic structure of the virus, they really mean they’re guessing what that sequence is, because they never had an actual isolated specimen of the virus to begin with.

Wrong again, Mike. Those researchers are experts.

Anyway, Bob, even assuming the virus is real, masks don’t work, and they have harmful effects.

Wrong, Mike. Dr. Fauci said masks are unnecessary and then he said they’re necessary, so masks are necessary.

The lockdowns, Bob, are actually house arrest. They’re unconstitutional, first of all, and even assuming the virus is real, lockdowns wouldn’t stop viral transmission. Destroying the economy and people’s lives with lockdowns is a major crime.

Sorry, wrong again, Mike. Lockdowns are absolutely necessary. You need to obey all the rules and keep your mouth shut. That’s part of what America means. Facebook and Twitter confirm that. So you lose this quiz, Mike.

What? I haven’t even talked about the worthless PCR test yet.

Bob, because you lose, there are penalties. You have to take the PCR test, cooperate with contact tracing, stay indoors alone for two weeks, close your business, and accept the vaccine. After vaccination, you have to keep wearing a mask, and you’ll have to get tested on a regular basis. Loss of freedom is the price loyal citizens must pay to keep us all safe. You see, Mike, there is a CAUSE AND EFFECT RELATIONSHIP THAT BINDS US ALL TOGETHER. IT STARTS WITH THE VIRUS. THE VIRUS MEANS WE’RE ALL AT RISK FROM EACH OTHER. WHAT YOU INDIVIDUALLY DO INEVITABLY AFFECTS EVERYONE ELSE. YOU CAN’T ESCAPE FROM THAT REALITY. SO YOUR FREEDOM HAS TO BE SQUELCHED.

I refuse, Bob. I won’t go along.

Then you’ll also pay a stiff fine, and possibly go to jail, Mike. Let’s move one level deeper, and maybe you’ll understand. Listen closely. Most people accept the existence of the virus. Therefore, for all practical purposes, it does exist. Everything else flows from that mass perception and acceptance. The masks, the distancing, the lockdowns, the vaccine—these are the necessary consequences. And on a metaphysical level, reality IS what people consent to. Now, how can the desires of one individual be allowed to countermand what most people consent to? The individual is AN EXTINCT NOTION. In his place, we have the State, and the Plan on how to organize the State. This is the natural evolution of government. Eventually, it all comes down to a definition of The Good. As Plato realized 2500 years ago, The Good is the highest idea humans can contemplate. And humans must embody that idea in their government and ENFORCE IT. So it’s inevitable that individual freedom will be curtailed and ultimately constricted. Freedom is, so to speak, conquered by The Good.

I disagree, Bob. That’s a slippery slimy argument. America was founded on a different ideal. Individual freedom. That’s what America is supposed to aspire to. That’s the struggle we’ve been in, since the beginning. Freedom is unlimited, but with the condition that you don’t infringe on another person’s liberty. American wasn’t founded on a definition of The Good or The Collective Good.

Okay, Mike, I’ve heard enough. I can give you six bonus points for trying to argue your way out of the penalties with fervor and passion. So let’s see. When I add up your answers to the first three challenges, and then your failure to handle the fourth situation…you’ll have to stay indoors alone for a week and get tested three times. Then we’ll reassess your situation. I can provide you with four rolls of toilet paper, a dozen cans of string beans, and three blocks of cheese from Government Storage, a subsidiary of the US Department of Justice. Thanks for being on the show, Mike.

Screw you, Bob.

I get that a lot. It’s part of my job on…THE COVID CANCEL CULTURE QUIZ SHOW, brought to you by Smartest Phone Services: keeping you under surveillance and in the loop and safe during hard times. Remember, folks, much of what you’re told about the need to cancel culture is debatable, but THE VIRUS ENDURES. It’s the bottom line on why this isn’t your grandfather’s freedom anymore. We’re in a NEW WORLD. And it must have ORDER. We’ll be back after the break with another contestant, a doctor who thinks the vaccine is dangerous and ineffective. Watch what we have in store for him…

COMMERCIAL ONE: Hello, I’m Dr. Frank Stein. These days, your one trusted source for accurate pandemic information is the Centers for Disease Control. While we have no comment on Bob Torquemada’s statements about social issues, his COVID science and virology are solid. Thanks, Bob, for your great and insightful work, and congrats on your Emmy nomination.

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Why test the vaccine right now on small children or pregnant women.
Well....because while most children who contract COVID...and they can contract it....have mild cases, some have severer cases that may require hospitalization, ventilators, and may even die. Certainly not at the rate of 75 y.o., for example....but they can and do.

And certainly pregnant women are no immune.

Thanks to you guys I know what FFS means.

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Boris expected to announce covid passports and certification today...
The unlawful segregation begins...
It is black and white law that no one should ever feel pressured or forced into a medical decision..
This will be the final straw for me....

My grandad is dying in hospital of a brain tumor yet i cant see him.. but prince charles was allowed to visit his dad in hospital, breaking many covid rules, including crossing boarders..

I wish everyone would group together and stop paying tax until the country is fair...
I mean starbucks still dont pay tax so why should anyone else...
 
It is black and white law that no one should ever feel pressured or forced into a medical decision..
You can not legally be forced to take the vaccine.
below are a list of national, and international laws on INFORMED CONSENT
  • Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights Article 6
  • Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 Part 50 Subpart B
  • Helsinki Declarations of the World Medical Association
  • Geneva Convention IV 1949 Article 32
  • Nuremberg Code of Informed Consent
  • Missouri vs McNeely, 569 US 2013


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You Refuse to Get Vaccinated, But Are You Ready to be an Outcast?


 
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You can not legally be forced to take the vaccine.
below are a list of national, and international laws on informed consent.
  • Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights Article 6
  • Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 Part 50 Subpart B
  • Helsinki Declarations of the World Medical Association
  • Geneva Convention IV 1949 Article 32
  • Nuremberg Code of Informed Consent
  • Missouri vs McNeely, 569 US 2013


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I may be wrong, but being "forced" is mostly about adhering to the resulting restrictions if one chooses not to do so, no...?


(and FUCK, I really had no intention of ever posting in this quagmire, bear-baiting, trap-of-a-thread... apologies, I go now!)
 
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You can not legally be forced to take the vaccine.
below are a list of national, and international laws on INFORMED CONSENT
  • Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights Article 6
  • Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 Part 50 Subpart B
  • Helsinki Declarations of the World Medical Association
  • Geneva Convention IV 1949 Article 32
  • Nuremberg Code of Informed Consent
  • Missouri vs McNeely, 569 US 2013


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You Refuse to Get Vaccinated, But Are You Ready to be an Outcast?


Outcast,outlaw,outsider...........what's new?
 
Not many here will like this article, sent to me by my attorney, but I post it nonetheless.
This is just information I am passing on from an email.
He said that in 2006, the Government (Federal and State) amended the law which enables them to make vaccination mandatory.
He explained it was written under a Public health/public policy intervention initiative.
He just sent it to me, so I will share it.
At the end of the article, there is a bibliography with references.
 
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That was an interesting article @Vitolo . It got me thinking about how our children in WA state need to be up to date on vaccines to go to school. Right now the vaccine isn’t available to children, by next fall it maybe available to teenagers (12-16 year olds). It could become mandatory if the vaccine is no longer in the trial phase. Like mandatory to go to public school. Our rights can only go so far.

A few years back schools became lax about vaccines. Anybody could decide they didn’t want their child vaccinated. They needed to tighten the process because kids were getting an illness that we had vaccines for. Students are normally packed so tight in a classroom they are breathing each other’s air regularly.
 
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Boris expected to announce covid passports and certification today...
This illustrates one reason why I'm absolutely rabid about defending the Bill of Rights.....ALL amendments.....because they contain individual rights protected at the highest level so an asshat like Boris can't just decide the rules.

Frankly, I'm surprised not to see court cases going up to the Supreme Court for all sorts of things...e.g. eviction moratorium. May be a nice, humanist thing to do....if you aren't the property owner. If you are, then there should be a valid argument for this being Government taking

The Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution reads as follows: “Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
I often think that people who want to circumvent some particular Amendment or another (and note, I did not say "change" IAW with the process for Constitutional amendment) lack thought and reason as they cannot see that, if allowed, what can be done to amendments they oppose can also be done to those they cherish.​
You don't get to fucking pick and choose.​
Perhaps some of you are familiar with this short poem written by a German in the aftermath of WW II regarding what he saw as the abject cowardness of the German intelligentsia in the face of Hitler's abuses and atrocities.​
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
And I'm terribly sad about your grandfather. Don't know what to say about that stiff Charles visiting Phillip. As always, the rich and powerful do as they please. I will always carry the sadness of not being able to visit my hospice patients during the lockdown...during which time they died. And my commitment....very deeply held commitment...to them was to walk down that final path with them and I was not allowed to. Its still distressing to me.​
Can you speak to him? Will the hospital/hospice arrange a vid call...Zoom or similar?​
It must be terribly painful to you and I'm sure to your grandfather.​
 
eviction moratorium
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/eviction-moratoria-order-faqs.pdf
According to this CDC Document, the reason for the eviction moratorium, is not out of financial concern for us as citizens, but rather to stop the spread of Covid, by limiting people on the street looking for housing, which would add to further contamination.
Across the country, in various counties where the positivity rate has fallen below whatever % each state has mandated, they are once again evicting people. Here the % was 2.5%, which was reached on March 28th (now it is 2.1%). Evictions began here on the 31st.
Below: My neighbor's front door at 10:25 a.m. on Wednesday. At 2:00 p.m., the police arrived to accelerate his departure.
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Friends from other states report that evictions are actively happening in their areas.
Can you speak to him? Will the hospital/hospice arrange a vid call...Zoom or similar?
This is a valid and wonderful question.
They can bring a "pad" to any patient.
Most Facilities will see the positive goal of enhancing a patient's life with visitation and family.
I get a weekly Zoom with 2 Hospice patients and 3 Assisted Living Patients Zoom with me every 14 days.
 
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Across the country, in various counties where the positivity rate has fallen below whatever % each state has mandated, they are once again evicting people. Here the % was 2.5%, which was reached on March 28th (now it is 2.1%). Evictions began here on the 31st.

Not sure why as the Federal moratorium from the CDC was extended thru to 30 Jun.

The CDC eviction moratorium took effect September 4, 2020,and was initially slated to extend through December 31, 2020. However, it was extended legislatively through January 31, 2021, and extended again by CDC through March 31, 2021. On March 29, 2021, CDC further extended the moratorium until June 30, 2021. The CDC moratorium does not address notices to vacate
According to this CDC Document, the reason for the eviction moratorium, is not out of financial concern for us as citizens, but rather to stop the spread of Covid, by limiting people on the street looking for housing, which would add to further contamination.

The 5th Amendment to the Constitution makes no distinction based on reason why.....with the exception of it being "public use" and since it was the Fed government imposing such a moratorium there is, to my mind, an argument to be made that this is indeed a taking.


They can bring a "pad" to any patient.
Most Facilities will see the positive goal of enhancing a patient's life with visitation and family.
I get a weekly Zoom with 2 Hospice patients and 3 Assisted Living Patients Zoom with me every 14 days.
Outstanding. Sadly, the facility where my hospice patients resided did not do any such thing....they may now, but my patients have been gone for 6 months, thereabouts.
 

It would be easy for someone to make a fake covid vaccine card, would be easy enough to do. They say don’t post your vaccine card on Facebook
 
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It would be easy for someone to make a fake covid vaccine card, would be easy enough to do. They say don’t post your vaccine card on Facebook
You should not publicly post any medical or personal documentation on the web?
Hipa violations,federal handicap law violations,constitutional violations.......all in one covid passport.
Just don't see it happening here unless its at gunpoint.
 
Pakistan people can now buy the vaccine if they do not want to wait for the free jab.
Papua New Guinea has had a very bad outbreak so Australia and other better-situated countries have diverted some of our/their vaccines to help them out.
 
I have been dating a young lady for a while now, who is a high school theater arts teacher.
I feel badly that I could not be supportive of her endeavor, as her group has a performance tonight ... a Musical.
It is in a high school auditorium, and I do not feel good about it.
I am taking my post vaccination 14 day protocol seriously, and I am not clear until the upcoming Monday.
At the risk of disappointing, I did not accept the invitation.
Were anything to happen to me, I would be looking back with accusatory thoughts at every
diversion I took.
This way if anything happens, I can not point fingers at isolated instances of my own causation.
 
They say don’t post your vaccine card on Facebook
hahahahaha....Carol, my view is don't post anything to Faceplant...er', book. ;-)
 
It will interesting to see how the vaccine passport issue is resolved. Which segment of the population will corporations cater to.
Neither will ensure a maximum possible customer base. Personally I will not travel again until I feel 100% safe.
 
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